Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia palpata (ID Stephane)

Posted by cyprinoid on 15-08-2009 18:37
#1

Norway, July/August, 5-6mm

Edited by cyprinoid on 18-08-2009 10:38

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-08-2009 19:41
#2

Difficult case, but my guess would be Phaonia palpata, a male.

Posted by cyprinoid on 15-08-2009 20:43
#3

Is there anything that is out of view that would make ID certain?

This guy won't go anywhere. It's still on my desk.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 15-08-2009 20:45
#4

it can reanimate surprisingly :D be quick :D

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-08-2009 21:47
#5

I use to find this species : 3 post dc, legs black with yellow tibiae, rather slender abdomen for a Phaonia, and I think I can see, not presutural strong acrostichals, but elongate hair like this species often have. If you can confirm this later point (or provide a dorsal view) as the presence of a posterior seta on fore tibia I would be pretty confident.

Posted by cyprinoid on 15-08-2009 22:11
#6

I hope this is what you need.
And I promise to study excatly what you are asking in the morning.
So that I have learned something too.

jorgemotalmeida: No sign of reanimation yet :)

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-08-2009 22:18
#7

I can't see sufficiently well. :|

Posted by cyprinoid on 15-08-2009 22:37
#8

Sorry for being stupid :|

Acrostichals visible here, right? Don't know if they are presutural though.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 16-08-2009 10:13
#9

They are visible and like I hoped, and the fore tibia's got a p. seta.
Thanks, it is quite consistent with P. palpata. :)

Posted by cyprinoid on 16-08-2009 13:54
#10

Thank You Stephane!