Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae - Pelatachina tibialis (thanks Theo)

Posted by tim worfolk on 11-08-2009 07:41
#1

I'm guessing this may be the female of M.praefica - same place as the male cf. praefica I posted yesterday?

5/8/2009; Glamorgan, S Wales, dune scrub.

Thanks

Tim

Edited by tim worfolk on 12-08-2009 21:00

Posted by tim worfolk on 11-08-2009 07:42
#2

same fly, different view.

Posted by ChrisR on 11-08-2009 08:41
#3

Looks very dexiine to me (thin body & long legs) - and I think I can see 4 pairs of scutellar bristles and a projecting mouth edge. Other than that I am a bit confused so I'll leave this to Theo :) Nice fly though - they have lots of interesting things in the South Wales dunes, I hear :)

Posted by tim worfolk on 11-08-2009 10:28
#4

Thanks Chris, we await Theo, then...

Tim

Posted by Zeegers on 11-08-2009 20:07
#5

I'm not convinced of either,


First of all, it is a male (pulvilli !)
Secondly the wing venation is not very Dexiinae.

So my guess would be Leskiini, which can be very Dexiinae. I see reddish sidemarkings in the first pic on tergites.

Could it be Bithia spreta ?


Theo

Posted by tim worfolk on 11-08-2009 20:29
#6

This is all getting very interesting (I didn't realise venation could be used to tell the tribe - must look into this). Anyway, here's another shot, it may add something.

Tim

Posted by Zeegers on 11-08-2009 21:01
#7

any more lateral shot would help, no matter how blurry, but I'm still with Bithia


Theo

Posted by tim worfolk on 11-08-2009 21:26
#8

Sorry that's the most lateral view I got.

Tim

Posted by ChrisR on 12-08-2009 00:06
#9

Interesting - Bithia spreta is quite rare here and I got one a few days ago but it didn't look very like this photo. Mine was much greyer and had very noticeable dusted, orange side patches.

Posted by Zeegers on 12-08-2009 19:02
#10

I agree it is very dark for Bithia spreta, maybe another BIthia but you don't have that many, do you ?

It can't be Eriothrix (like in prolixa), because of the bare eyes, the broader vertex and the lack of costal spine.

So I'm running out of options, other than Bithia.

Pity we can't see the setulae on veins


Theo

Posted by Zeegers on 12-08-2009 19:37
#11

OK guys, my mistake,

I just noted the outward oriented orbital in the first pic:

Pelatachina tibialis.


The tibiae didn't seem reddish, that why I did not think of it sooner.


Theo

Posted by tim worfolk on 12-08-2009 20:55
#12

Well, fruitful errors and all that...thanks Theo.

Tim