Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophagidae / Tachinidae /?????
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 05-08-2009 06:49
#1
I have no idea :|
Photographed in the Netherlands 4-8-09. Bergen (N.H.)
Best regards,
Thijs
Edited by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 06:36
Posted by Zeegers on 05-08-2009 18:23
#2
The grey pattern on thorax and abdomen looks very distinctive, yet no idea.
Theo
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 05-08-2009 22:20
#3
Thanks Theo. On waarneming I've got the same answer.
I only have this photo. It's on a leave of an holly in the garden.
Thijs
Posted by Smoggycb on 06-08-2009 08:12
#4
Could it be Phyto melanocephala? I always think they look like a cross between a tachinid and a sarcophagid, and it does have a petiole on the wing.
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 06:32
#5
Thanks, but I don't think, it is a Phyto melanocephala. I have this fly in the garden. They don't look similar.
http://www.tuin-t...-11-5-.jpg
When it was a Phyto, Theo had known.
I look every day in the garden. But I don't see it again. :|
Best regards, Thijs
Posted by Zeegers on 09-08-2009 08:56
#6
Interesting observation.
The calyptra are small, that supports Phyto (or Rhinophoridae in general).
The abdominal pattern is very peculiar.
However, the photo has been flashed.
So maybe it is artificial ?
Theo
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 11:57
#7
The photo hasn't been flashed Theo.
I have placed the original photo on my site now.
http://www.tuin-t...4-8-09.jpg
This is what I saw that day.
Thijs
Edited by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 11:58
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 20-08-2009 22:49
#8
Suggestion Joke van Erkelens: Maybe Macronychia agrestis (old name Tachina agrestis)
Is this possible?
Regards, Thijs
Posted by javanerkelens on 21-08-2009 09:15
#9
I must admit, that going to species level, was to enthousiastic of me :D, but Macronychia / Amobia could be a possibility.
I know you gladly want to kwow this nice fly, so I hope you get a confirming of an expert!
Joke van Erkelens
Posted by Zeegers on 21-08-2009 09:32
#10
We can't see many bristles, the topcell seems stalked but this might be an artifact of the picture, the light is curious,though not flashed,
this one is beyond reasonable ID.
Theo
Posted by Jan HC Velterop on 21-08-2009 11:05
#11
The suggestion that this fly might be a Macronychia has to be rejected. Macronychia species can have the midstripe black, but then the thinner sidestripes are continuing over the suture to the second post DC. Also I do not think that the short stalk of the topcell is an artifact, because the wings are in flat horizontal position. I think we have to look for Tachinidae or Rhinophoridae.
Jan Velterop, Enschede NL
Posted by thijsdegraaf on 21-08-2009 19:53
#12
Thanks Jan, Theo and Joke.
Unfortunately fly spec. :| But I've learned a lot.
Thijs