Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cinochira atra (Tachinidae) ID by neprisikiski
Posted by lagura on 10-07-2009 10:52
#1
Don't know what this could be. Any ideas?
Size: ~3mm
Date: 13 June 2009
Location: On wooden railing around a pond (Helsingborg, Sweden)
Thanks!
EDIT: Title changed from "Another small, dark fly"
Edited by lagura on 10-07-2009 19:53
Posted by Paul Beuk on 10-07-2009 11:31
#2
Calyptrate, either Muscidae or Anthomyiidae.
Posted by Xespok on 10-07-2009 15:50
#3
Why not a small Scathophagidae? I think I posted this or a similar species, but did never get a response.
Posted by neprisikiski on 10-07-2009 16:50
#4
or even tachinidae, Cinochira atra:)
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 10-07-2009 18:12
#5
Once again. Bravo. :)
Posted by lagura on 10-07-2009 19:52
#6
Thank you all very much! :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-07-2009 20:15
#7
Conclusion: Cinochira atra is much more common than it was thought :)
Posted by Jaakko on 10-07-2009 20:22
#8
jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Conclusion: Cinochira atra is much more common than it was thought :)
It comes almost to Lapland up here. Probably overlooked because of its size. I haven't collected it myself yet...:@;)
Posted by lagura on 10-07-2009 22:38
#9
Interesting.
I took this photo a week earlier. Same place. Is it also a C. atra?
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-07-2009 22:39
#10
yes. Again Cinochira atra!!! :)
Posted by ChrisR on 10-07-2009 23:00
#11
Great photos! :D I haven't seen it here either and UK records are very scarce - probably due to its small size :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-07-2009 23:22
#12
Chris you have this in your garden. :P
Posted by lagura on 10-07-2009 23:51
#13
Thanks! :D
Yes, it's small. I wonder how many times I have walked past it. Oh well, doesn't matter now! :D
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-07-2009 23:52
#14
Tell me: did you find these C. atra in shadowy places?
Posted by lagura on 11-07-2009 00:07
#15
Well, yes and no. It's a small valley with a creek and lots of high decideous trees. Some parts are sunny and some shadowy. Which depends on the time of day.
As I recall these two where both in a sort of semi shadowed part of the wooden railing.
There is also quite a lot of people walking, or jogging, around, or feeding the ducks :)
I've seen lots of different flies there, practically everything from tiny Chloropids to big Asilidaes :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 11-07-2009 00:12
#16
that's precisely the conditions I spotted the C. atra in Buçaco! :D
Posted by Jaakko on 11-07-2009 19:36
#17
The specimen I have is from a malaise trap in a lakeshore forest, likely matching the description!
Jaakko
Posted by lagura on 12-07-2009 00:52
#18
Here is a photo (taken today) of a part of the area I described above. The latest C. atra was found not too far from that little hut (or whatever it's called) and on the same side.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 12-07-2009 08:51
#19
this fits precisely the place where I saw C. atra. Here the famous Buçaco mountain. It has an unique flora (like big arboreal ferns - here in the photo you see the small ones.:P) . And I saw the fly in the upperside of the photo - about 100 m from it. On the table.
Go here:
http://farm1.stat...5931_b.jpg
(photo is not mine)