Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pinned Suillia parva, Heleomyzidae
Posted by JariF on 28-04-2009 15:12
#1
Hi, this reddish brown Heleomyzidae was flying around
Anemone nemorosa flowers. April 26.2009 Helsinki, Finland.
Jari
Edited by JariF on 28-04-2009 17:59
Posted by Andrzej on 28-04-2009 16:31
#2
Hmm, it Suillia parva/flavifrons species-group !
If scutellum is bare ventrally should be
S. flavivrons, if hairy so
S. parva :)
Posted by JariF on 28-04-2009 17:59
#3
Hooray ! Thank You Andrzej, we have a name :D The scutellum is ventrally hairy, so it's parva. Thank You once more.
Jari
Posted by phil withers on 28-04-2009 18:16
#4
Not necessarily: it could be
dawnae, which is not easy to separate in females.
Posted by JariF on 28-04-2009 19:09
#5
Hmmm, that would be interesting. As far as I know Suillia dawnae is found only from British Islands ;) Everything is possible nowdays but I would be a bit sceptic with that. The second thing is, that this information is based only what I can find from Fauna Europaea database.
Jari
Posted by Andrzej on 28-04-2009 19:51
#6
Hi !,
and ... what about the characters used in the British key by Phil ?
Andrzej :|
Posted by phil withers on 28-04-2009 21:09
#7
I find
dawnae much more frequently here in France than
parva; just because I first found it in Britain does not mean it cannot occur elsewhere. The character to separate the two (which may not always work - limited material to try it on !) is whether the pruinosity on the frons reaches past the orbital bristles (parva) or not. The position of the orbitals may also work: in dawnae these are well forward of the anterior ocellus. Good luck !
Posted by Andrzej on 28-04-2009 22:16
#8
Thanks Phil for your comments !
Right,
S. dumicola described from UK was found in Poland some years ago !
What about the distribution of
S. dawnae in France. Is
S. dawnae more limited to highlands or lowlands areas ?.
Posted by JariF on 29-04-2009 05:42
#9
Hi, I don't really know abouth the pruinosity but the bristles are visible in this bad picture.
Jari
Posted by phil withers on 29-04-2009 17:42
#10
I'd say
parva on the strength of this pic. I have a feeling (nothing more than that yet without checking my collection) that
dawnae is more lowland and
parva more "alpine"...but don't quote me ! Incidentally, since I named it after my ex-wife, I'd be happy to sink it as a synonym one day !
Posted by Andrzej on 29-04-2009 18:53
#11
I agree fully with your opinion that S. parva is more
" an alpine" species :)
There is a small pseudovibrissa seen at the last picture !.
I've noted it in more specimens !
Edited by Andrzej on 29-04-2009 18:54