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Posted by JariF on 29-03-2009 12:17

Hi, I have hundreds of pinned Muscidae and Anthomyiidae waiting fo ID. I try little by little get some touch with them, so I will send here maybe too many pictures. If so, please let me know ok ? I think this could be a member of Phaonia :| 9.5.2008 Helsinki, Finland.

Jari

Edited by JariF on 23-04-2009 04:39

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 30-03-2009 20:14

There is hope if some details are visible : how many post dc ? presence of prestut. acr ?
At first glance, it looks like Phaonia serva...

Posted by JariF on 01-04-2009 11:02

Well Stephane, any hope now ? :)

Jari

Posted by JariF on 07-04-2009 18:23

And this one is still in the line :)

Jari

Posted by javanerkelens on 07-04-2009 21:19

I get the strange feeling , that this is Polietes domitor..:)
(is the radial node haired..?)

Joke van Erkelens

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-04-2009 21:40

No, Joke, Phaonia is correct, one of the group with proturding mouthedge and long proboscis.
My vote rather for Ph.alpicola than Ph.serva, but it isn't ID, but rather advice to Jari what he should check first.

Posted by javanerkelens on 07-04-2009 21:52

Oke.!
(I have clearly stil ignorance of foreign species...;))

Posted by JariF on 08-04-2009 14:58

#10

Ok, I must go on with my Muscidae detective job :) Some Phaonia alpicola has been found only from the very Northest part of Finland. Phaonia serva should have 1-3 presutural ac; this one has not. I tried to follow my key and ended to a wild quess :| How abouth Phaonia consobrina ?

Jari

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 08-04-2009 16:40

#11

Jari, I think I can see 1 pair of prst ac, badly visible on black background. Are you sure it hasn't?

Posted by JariF on 08-04-2009 16:52

#12

Well, the fly is still under my microscope and I really cant's see them. Just normal short hairs but no ac setae at all. :o

Jari

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 08-04-2009 17:42

#13

So: 0 ac, proturding mouthedge and long proboscis.
Best wishes in ID!

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 08-04-2009 20:34

#14

Sorry to have been so long to reply (a hard drive problem ).
It's really more difficult than I expected. I'd need the specimen for this one...

Posted by JariF on 09-04-2009 08:38

#15

Ok, You will get the specimen :)

Jari

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 22-04-2009 21:04

#16

Received today, and identified.
This is Phaonia consobrina ! :)

Posted by JariF on 23-04-2009 04:40

#17

Thank You so much Stephane !! So I was right with the ID and this feels good :D

Jari