Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Heleomyzidae, Suillia atricornis

Posted by JariF on 17-03-2009 14:44
#1

Hi,

I have some flies from last summer without even a family name. This poor little fly is one of them. It was very fresh, because the wings were not hardened and it flies in the end of our season. One of my last flies from past summer. October 7. 2008 Helsinki, Finland. Any ideas where to start ?

Jari

Edited by JariF on 18-03-2009 12:13

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 17-03-2009 16:00
#2

Habitually, can be a Palloptera: one or, 1 presutural dc seta, dark antenna, short pubescent arista, easy shriveled when dies...

Try some Pallopterid keys first.

Also, are there some similar Suillia in Heleomyzidae with such a long vertical setae?

Edited by Nosferatumyia on 17-03-2009 16:04

Posted by Andrzej on 17-03-2009 16:40
#3

Hmm, I cannot see the vibrissa (maybe broken !).
Look like Suillia atricornis ! :D

Posted by JariF on 17-03-2009 17:42
#4

Thank You both ! I tried gently roll open one wing and there are no black dots at all like most of the Pallopteridae has. There are small spines on costa like Suillias have and if I look with the highest magnification with my scope I believe I can see the small black dots where the vibrissae has been. This specimen is in bad condition but it somehow looks so funny and strange at the same time. Maybe because the missing (broken) vibrissae. I don't have Pallopteridae with dark antenna. What could it be if the wings are clear (or slightly darkened) and the antenna is dark ? This poor little thing is getting interesting :)

Jari

Posted by Paul Beuk on 17-03-2009 20:29
#5

Is Suillia atricornis a Suillia with postpronotal seta?

Posted by Andrzej on 17-03-2009 21:15
#6

Why not ? Genitalia are typical !

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 17-03-2009 22:15
#7

There are dorsal tibial setae, so it is seems to be a heleomyzid.

Posted by JariF on 18-03-2009 10:27
#8

Hi, thank You again all of You :) I think I will name this as Suillia cf atricornis as long as I can find a key to be sure. This is a new species for me so I have no possibilities to compare. Thank You once more.

Jari

Edited by JariF on 18-03-2009 10:27

Posted by Andrzej on 18-03-2009 11:33
#9

Hi !
S. atricornis is the only species within the genus with dark blackish-brown to black antennae ! ... and with VIIth segment longer than the VIth one in the female :D

Posted by JariF on 18-03-2009 12:13
#10

Wow, that's it then :D Thank You so much !

Jari