Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Mesembrina meridiana
Posted by picotverd on 23-01-2009 14:26
#1
Hi before the server failed this fly was id as possible Mesembrina cf intermedia, wich is not listed in Spain. I have search for more photos and finded them. What is your opinion?
10 augoust 08 at catalonian pyrenees about 2.000 mts aprox.
Edited by picotverd on 28-03-2017 15:56
Posted by Paul Beuk on 23-01-2009 21:30
#2
Pleas try to re-attach the image.
Posted by picotverd on 24-01-2009 08:41
#3
Another photo
Posted by picotverd on 24-01-2009 08:43
#4
Another
Posted by picotverd on 24-01-2009 08:46
#5
I took this photo a couple of minutes before and so you can see the habitat, wich i think is interesting to place the habitat also, it is a herbaceos with few threes and cows...
Posted by picotverd on 24-01-2009 08:47
#6
And finally the map from fauna europeaea, wich i imagine it is orientative. I marked where i find this fly.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-01-2009 11:28
#7
Visible characters are for Mesembrina cf intermedia. But I have never work specially with Mesembrina and I don't know if there are some undercurrents in this genus.
Posted by andrzej grzywacz on 26-01-2009 11:26
#8
Do you have specimen in your collection? Mesembrina intermedia have 1+1 katepisternal setae, M. meridiana only 0+1 katepisternal, but I have read that sometimes also M. meridiana hve 1+1 setae. Look also on 5th tarsomere of fore leg (yellow-> M. meridiana; brown-> M. intermedia). I have in my collection specimen looking like M. meridiana but in my opinion also has characters of M. intermedia. Maybe specialist should see this photo.
Posted by picotverd on 26-01-2009 13:37
#9
No, but the place is not very far from where i spend my vacances on holydays, so it will be easy to reach the place and i image that won't be difficult to catch them. I will do it, so, in july or augoust, so if anybody is interested tell me in order to send them.
Thank you
Posted by Kahis on 23-12-2009 14:22
#10
Having just sorted though the finnish
Mesembrina material, it's my opinion that this one is not
M. intermedia. I dont know all possible south european
Mesembrina species, but among the central european ones, I'd call this
M. meridiana.