Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipulidae
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:09
#1
Can anyone give a name to this nice little Tipulidae pair?
Male 10mm, female 11.5mm, from 21 May 2008, lowland (<100masl) central France, la Brenne, old oak wooded heathland.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:10
#2
Male abdomen (sorry, not very helpful angle).
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:11
#3
Male wing.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:11
#4
Male head and thorax, lateral.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:13
#5
Female head and thorax, dorsal.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-12-2008 16:13
#6
Female wing.
Posted by Chen Young on 11-12-2008 18:04
#7
This looks like a pair of Limnophila species in Limoniinae (or Limoniidae). There are many subgenera in this genus and a detail study of the male genitalia is required to put name on them. Here are some
related species in this genus found in North America.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 15-12-2008 13:50
#8
Many thanks Chen. That's useful to know.
Posted by Jean Leveque on 15-12-2008 15:30
#9
Hello, Susan and Chen!
The veins here are typical of Tipulidae: see for that respect the excellent site of Alain Ramel aramel.free page 15'
I also see the typical "muzzle" of Tipulidae, although not sure from the angles of the photos. Susan, could you check this from your specimen?
Best regards,
Jean
Posted by Chen Young on 16-12-2008 16:02
#10
Hello Jean
I am wonder when you used Tipulidae, do you mean Tipulidae (sensu lato) or Tipulidae (sensu stricto). If it is Tipulidae (sensu lato) then you are correct, genus Limnophila is in the family Tipulidae (sensu lato)
If you used Tipulidae (sensu stricto) then you may want to click
here , to see the difference between Tipulidae (sensu stricto0 and Limoniidae.
Susan's image does not show the head clearly , but the antennae look more than 13 segments and the palpus are hardly visible to me.
Chen
Posted by Eric Fisher on 16-12-2008 17:04
#11
Greetings Chen,
I just want to say that your "Crane Flies of Pennsylvania" website is really fantastic! Also, you have the most carefully & beautifully preserved crane fly specimens in existence. Congratulations!
Best wishes & Happy Holidays,
Eric
Posted by kitenet on 17-12-2008 00:22
#12
Susan, if this was a UK specimen I'd be thinking Euphylidorea lineola or E. dispar, leaning towards the latter on account of the dark stigma and femora, but I don't know how many similar species there are in France.
Martin
Posted by Jean Leveque on 17-12-2008 09:11
#13
I can only second the comments on Chen's site: it is simply wonderful!
Jean
Posted by Susan R Walter on 21-12-2008 12:34
#14
Thanks Martin. According to FE, 5 species of Euphylidorea in France, so I will try to find out what the others look like.