Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cinochira atra (was: Little black one for id!)
Posted by Klaas on 29-11-2008 21:03
#1
This male fly is only 2,6 mm. First I thought it might be Rhinophoridae, because it has no swing - more a stiff appearance. But perhaps it is Muscidae-Hydrotaea species or Anthomyiidae?
Thanks for any help with this one.
With regards,
Klaas
Picture one
Edited by ChrisR on 30-11-2008 17:34
Posted by Klaas on 29-11-2008 21:04
#2
picture 2
Posted by Klaas on 29-11-2008 21:05
#3
picture 3
Posted by Zeegers on 29-11-2008 21:20
#4
Indeed, no Rhinophoridae.
SHould be very obvious to the experts, this one.
Theo
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 29-11-2008 22:21
#5
Isn't it a nice row of meral bristles that I can see on the 1st picture ?
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 29-11-2008 23:32
#6
In that case, M only slightly bent, almost straight, ovipositor pincer-like and small size, maybe
Cinochira atra (Tachinidae) ?
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 29-11-2008 23:33
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 29-11-2008 23:43
#7
Very unusual fly!
Posted by Klaas on 30-11-2008 12:23
#8
Thank you Stephane and Theo
These pictures are not my best work, but with some 'photoshopping' i destillated some more details of meron and head.
Perhaps it contributes the suggestion of Stephane?
Klaas
pleurosternum, meron, remarkeble coxa leg 1 also
Posted by Klaas on 30-11-2008 12:25
#9
the head
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 30-11-2008 13:35
#10
I'm convinced this is
Cinochira atra, but I suggest you to change the tiltle of your subject to get a confirmation. ;)
Posted by Zeegers on 30-11-2008 15:58
#11
My god, totally missed it.
No doubt, Stephane is right.
Just to be sure, can we see the abdominal tip from a dorsal point of view ? There should be a small pair of piercers present (as it seems to be a female ?)
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 30-11-2008 17:20
#12
That's weird because I have looking at these photos and thinking "It could be a tachinid but ... naaa ... can't be!". Would be nice to have these for the gallery if they are confirmed :D
Posted by Klaas on 30-11-2008 19:01
#13
Theo, from tip of abdomen i have no better image then what is showed allready.
Some more info:
It is found in a small forrest with Fraxinus and Quercus near streaming water, on a dead log of Fraxinus at the ground.
I can't do much more, so i hope a brave dipterologist may tackle this one:)
Klaas
Posted by Zeegers on 01-12-2008 08:42
#14
I think it is beyond reasonable doubt that this is Cinochira atra.
KLaas, could you please PM me the date and locality ?
SO far, about 5 records known from the Netherlands.
Theo