Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Struggle with a Tachydromia
Posted by John Bratton on 28-10-2008 17:14
#1
Trying to identify a male Tachydromia using Collin's 1961 Empididae, I got to T. stigmatella, but the palps on mine have a distinct terminal bristle and Collin says this species doesn't. Can anyone suggest what others have a very long third antennal segment and black arista, please? It was swept from limestone grassland (Great Orme, N. Wales) in September.
Other characters that match Collin's description of stigmatella are:
Thorax shining black.
Frons shining.
Pleurae with grey pilosity, except mesopleurae and sternopleurae are shining black.
Acrostichals uniserial (unless they are two rows very very close together).
Abdomen shining black with grey pubescence (though not noticeably denser on 4th and 5th tergites).
Legs reddish (Collin says yellow) with darker patch on top of the middle of the middle femora.
Middle femora stout with two rows of short black bristles beneath (and longitudinal row of three longer finer hairs/bristles on my specimen).
Hind femora slender.
What are the ungues, please? Collin says these should be short and conspicuously black.
Thanks in anticipation,
John Bratton
Posted by Paul Beuk on 28-10-2008 19:50
#2
I cannot give a simple answer. After 1961 there have been quite a few changes, among other that the gnus is now called
Platypalpus.
It would be helpfull to have one or more images...
Posted by John Bratton on 29-10-2008 12:27
#3
Thanks. I don't think my camera can do the job, though.
John
Posted by Adrian on 29-10-2008 13:09
#4
If you are a member of the Dipterits Form check out their web site. I placed a provisional key to the British species there. It includes all the (many) additions to the UK fauna since Collin.
Re photo's:- you're wasting your time trying to det many Tachydromia from a photo.
Cheers
Adrian
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-10-2008 14:00
#5
Well, it is interesting to know which genus we are really talking about. Is it
Tachydromia sensu Collin (=
Platypalpus) or is it
Tachydromia in its present sense?
Posted by John Bratton on 31-10-2008 18:20
#6
Thanks for pointing me to the key. As it is to the 15 British species of Tachydromia in the present sense, how do I tell if mine is one of these or a Platypalpus, pleae? Do the Platypalpus come out in a block in Collin's key?
John
Posted by Paul Beuk on 31-10-2008 20:24
#7
Has your fly bands on the wing, are they infuscate or are they clear?
Posted by John Bratton on 04-11-2008 14:53
#8
The wings are entirely clear. Attached is a sketch of the 3rd antennal segment and arista, both black. I thought the length of the segment would narrow down the possible species.
This is probably getting tedious for the rest of the readers. Shall we continue by e-mail?
Thanks,
John
Posted by Paul Beuk on 04-11-2008 14:55
#9
That's
Platypalpus. To be certain about the ID I think it will be necessary that someone has a look at it with some recent literature. Perhaps Adrian can do that?
Posted by John Bratton on 04-11-2008 15:13
#10
Thanks. I'll hang on to it until I'm visiting an expert.
John