Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipulidae female, brachipterous
Posted by Elena Regina on 06-09-2025 19:13
#1
Lazio, 2025-IX, TBL 25 mm
Posted by eklans on 07-09-2025 13:26
#2
Is a dorsal view of the last tergites available? First idea is
T. pagana.
Posted by John Carr on 07-09-2025 16:13
#3
eklans wrote:
Is a dorsal view of the last tergites available? First idea is T. pagana.
Aren't the palps too short for
Tipula?
Posted by eklans on 07-09-2025 17:05
#4
You are right - thanks John!
Posted by Elena Regina on 07-09-2025 17:23
#5
There it is:
Posted by eklans on 08-09-2025 15:37
#6
Grazie per le immagini! It's definitely not
T. pagana! The ovipositor looks like these of subgenus
Lunatipula (
alpina etc.). The palpus is short but seems to have enough segments. I have no experience with dried specimen, do the segments shrink when dried?
Is the brachyptery caused by a growth defect?
Posted by Elena Regina on 08-09-2025 16:40
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There were two live females over a permanent mountain puddle at approx. 1000 m asl. Segments of palpus did not shrink after death; I don't know what caused the brachyptery. Any idea about the species?
Posted by eklans on 08-09-2025 17:48
#8
I respect John's statement about the length of the palpus, though the head looks like Tipula - particularly the "nose" in
T. alpina.
But if I concentrate on the ovipositor I've found three similar species for Italy in subgenus
Lunatipula:
alpina
graeca
livida
Source:
https://ccw.natur...