Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Which Asilidae 2? --> Choerades marginata, male

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 17-07-2025 19:11
#1

Three Asilidae today (17. July 2025) within a couple of minutes - no. three landing on my camera, so no chance to take a picture, but I am sure it was Tolmerus sp., as I often see them in our garden. The other two seem to be new to me, both seen on the same Hydrangia within 2min.
So, here is the second one - our garden in Rheinbach near Bonn/Germany, 210m above sea level, huge forest close by. Fly about 12-15mm. Please help - thank you so much, Jörg

Edited by Joerg Schneider on 20-07-2025 19:05

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 17-07-2025 19:12
#2

She was briefly gone, but came back immediately :-)

Edited by Joerg Schneider on 17-07-2025 19:13

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 17-07-2025 19:16
#3

Different view

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 17-07-2025 19:16
#4

Different view

Posted by eklans on 18-07-2025 10:54
#5

Hi Jörg, I think these are males Choerades marginata.
Same as the other thread https://diptera.i..._id=115907

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 20-07-2025 19:04
#6

Thank you Eric! I am not really happy - they look like C. marginata, but if I compare them with the photos/description in Danny Wolffs Die Raubfliegen Deutschlands, the orange hair on the abdominal segments but the last two seems strange. But I guess you are sure, otherwise you would not answer like this!

Posted by eklans on 21-07-2025 08:36
#7

Hi Jörg, I understand your concerns. But we can clearly see yellow adpressed hairs of the face, which are crucial after Wolff, Gebel, Geller-Grimm (2018): Die Raubfliegen Deutschlands

Posted by Joerg Schneider on 21-07-2025 15:49
#8

Yes.... anyway, it is a new species for my collection, so I can easily accept your verdict ;-)