Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Wasp drone ? Vespula vulgaris ?

Posted by Volkmar on 25-11-2024 20:34
#1

Found today, I think it's a drone, Vespula vulgaris. I took it into the house and feeded it with some honey, after that, I removed it back to the house wall.

Data: Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia, D-59821 Arnsberg, 235 m, 25.11.2024.

Best regards

Volkmar

Edited by Volkmar on 26-11-2024 13:09

Posted by eklans on 26-11-2024 11:26
#2

Do you have an image showing the complete antenna?

Posted by Volkmar on 26-11-2024 12:42
#3

Hello Eric,

here is a picture of the complete antenna. I count 13 antennal segments, but I'm not so sure, so I think it's a male.

Best regards, Volkmar

Edited by Volkmar on 26-11-2024 12:47

Posted by Volkmar on 26-11-2024 13:14
#4

This morning I found it unfortunately absorbed by a harvest spider.

Regards

Volkmar

Posted by eklans on 26-11-2024 16:08
#5

Poor man! Yes, it is a male and the parallel-sided humeral strip and the indented yellow patch in the eye points to V. vulgaris but the face looks more like V. germanica. And I have never seen a Vespula sp. with that long silvery hair! So I don't dare to give the species a name other than Vespula cf. vulgaris!

Posted by Volkmar on 26-11-2024 18:12
#6

Thank you Eric for your assessment ! I also have never seen a wasp with such long silvery hair!
Greetings Volkmar

Posted by libor on 26-11-2024 22:05
#7

Volkmar, can we see uper tooth of mandibles?
Libor

Posted by Volkmar on 27-11-2024 12:58
#8

I hope it fits, Volkmar

Edited by Volkmar on 27-11-2024 12:59

Posted by Volkmar on 28-11-2024 16:20
#9

Hello Eric,
after consulting an expert who regularly relocates wasp colonies, it is a fresh young male wasp, that loses it's silver hair over time or some of it turn black later.
Best regards, Volkmar