Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Thai. Fly N2
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-12-2007 18:13
#1
Thailand, Khao Chamao, I've seen twice this fly near the forest stream, once collected.
Large (1cm), R1 setos dorsaly, R5 setose ventraly (both completely)
Posted by Kahis on 12-12-2007 18:20
#2
Oh, wow.
I have no clue at all about this fly, but that does not stop me from guessing:
The ovipositor makes me think of Tephritoidea. A tropical, weird tephritoid would probably be a Platystomatid :)
Edited by Kahis on 12-12-2007 20:30
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 12-12-2007 18:21
#3
Hmmm, I was thinking more about a big Anthomyzidae! :o
Greetings,
Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 12-12-2007 18:30
#4
I'd say
Anthomyzidae don't exceed 5 mm...
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-12-2007 18:36
#5
also:
t2 with strong pv spine,
1 recl
or, 1 frontal pointed inside (almost crossed) both strong, 1 rather week prescut
dc
Posted by Xespok on 12-12-2007 18:56
#6
This looks wierd. I have no idea what this would be.
Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 12-12-2007 19:07
#7
Still nothing too contradictive as well as too convincing (to me). If we assume it's a genus w/o pv ctenidial spine on
f1 (like
Typhamyza), then a distinct ventroapical seta on
t2 should be present...
Posted by Tony Irwin on 12-12-2007 19:56
#8
I still wonder whether Nikita makes these up in Photoshop ... ;)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 12-12-2007 20:15
#9
Costal break apparently present, cell cup extended into acute angle, incurved frontal setae:
Tephritidae according to Oosterbroek's key to Malaysian Diptera.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 12-12-2007 20:15
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-12-2007 04:02
#10
Tephritidae may be confirmed or excluded by John.
I've just got another idea from Andrey Ozerov - Tanypezidae.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-12-2007 07:56
#11
Tanypezidae? From what I know of them: unlikely with such an ovipositor...
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-12-2007 14:24
#12
2 years ago I made in Thailand, near another forest stream bad image of another fly.
Fly was also about 1cm, another wing pattern, but I suppose near last one.
2 years ago I put fly as unknown Tephritidae...
Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 13-12-2007 14:53
#13
Well let's wait for Hardy's book (The fruit flies (Tephritidae-Diptera) of Thailand and bordering countries; vol. 31 of Pacific Insects Monographs) to become available online...
Posted by Nosferatumyia on 30-12-2007 20:18
#15
It is
Felderimyia cf.
gombakensis D. Hancock & Drew 1995 (Malaysian J. Sci. 16A: 45-59). The only difference from the type is mostly yellow katepisternum in this specimen on the pic, which does not allow ti ID it definitivly. This, however, can be merely a variability.
Bernhard Merz possibly possesses additional specimens collected in Thailand, but did not listed this species (Papp, Merz & Foeldvari 2006), which is therefore a new record.
And, it certainly is a tephritid.
Val
Edited by Nosferatumyia on 30-12-2007 20:42
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 30-12-2007 20:21
#16
great name! Felderimyia cf. gombakensis B)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 31-12-2007 09:13
#17
Thank you Valery.