Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ochthera schembrii?

Posted by clovis on 05-02-2017 17:38
#1

Hello,

I would like to have your opinion on this one I found at edge of a drying pool in center of France. Is it O schembrii? I know there is other species in France, but don't know how to separate them.

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos177/big/my_rs_y_rigny_ao.jpg
clovis : France : Mûrs-Erigné : 49610 : 14/08/2016
Altitude : 20 m - Taille : 7 mm environ
Réf. : 177748
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos177/big/my_rs_y_rigny_aob.jpg
clovis : France : Mûrs-Erigné : 49610 : 14/08/2016
Altitude : 20 m - Taille : 7 mm environ
Réf. : 177749

Posted by Tony Irwin on 05-02-2017 21:08
#2

The front tarsi of schembrii are orange, so this is in the mantis complex. From the abdominal markings, I would say this is manicata, but I have not seen the third species, palearctica, which has been reported from France. To be sure, you would need to catch a male and examine the genitalia.

Posted by clovis on 09-02-2017 20:46
#3

I have it and it is a male :)
But I won't have my camera for a month, so maybe you can tell me what to look at and I'll check

Thanks for your help!

Posted by Tony Irwin on 10-02-2017 00:46
#4

Please PM me with your e-mail address, and I'll send you a page of figures which will help.