Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Asilidae?

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 12-01-2017 20:28
#1

ID! Israel. Kfar Vradim city. 32°59'49.13" N 35°16'27.76" E 2013-01-06 Thank you!

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Posted by Quaedfliegh on 14-01-2017 00:17
#2

A nice couple of Asilinae :D They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 14-01-2017 01:34
#3

Quaedfliegh wrote:
A nice couple of Asilinae :D They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.


OK! Thank you! There are more images of the same region. ID?:

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Posted by piros on 14-01-2017 10:23
#4

Femeles look like Engelepogon here:

http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=70138

Greetings,
Henrik

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 13:38
#5

It cannot be Engelopogon with such a bristly mesonotum ;)

Anyway the first set of pictures doesn't seem to be the same genus than the second one :|

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 13:42

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 14-01-2017 14:16
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Lunchbreak : ) These creatures are Erax sp. Note antennae, the straight and narrow 3rd segment.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 15:27
#7

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Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely! :)

Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail.

It should be either E. gracilis or E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further :(

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 14-01-2017 16:48
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Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 17:05
#9

Reinoud, I see, you were talking about the second set of pictures ;) That suits my first impression (see my 1rst post in this thread) :)

I would love to know your opinion when you have time, but focusing in the two pictures of female Erax, I am rather convinced now of Erax gracilis. I cannot see all details but I see pale bristles on the abdomen. To my understanding, that should rule out Erax nigrosetosus...

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 14-01-2017 17:18
#10

Thank you all very much! Offline limitations do not allow you to download full-size image.

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 14-01-2017 17:22
#11

Quaedfliegh wrote:
Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful.


OK! I'm going to do an image from a different angle. Thank you so much!

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 14-01-2017 17:26
#12

Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
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Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely! :)

Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail.

It should be either E. gracilis or E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further :(


Thank you! I can send the full-size images by e-mail, but have not got it :)

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 18:01
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Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now! ;)

Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 18:01

Posted by alexandrslutsky on 14-01-2017 18:29
#14

Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now! ;)

Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com


Thank you! I sent everything.