Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Lispe flavicincta?
Posted by clovis on 25-01-2015 12:40
#1
Hi,
Here is a
Lispe i caught last spring in south France on side of a brackish lake.
After some research, i think this could be
L flavicincta, has i see a antero dorsal setae on mid tibia and epandrium black, with a large median silvery spot.
But i could find any information about
L marina that also lives in France according to Fauna europaea.
By the way, i understood Hennig's key (1960) is the reference for this genus, but couldn't find it on internet, does someone has it in pdf? (and is it in english? I can't read german...)
clovis : France : Lattes : 34970 : 15/05/2014
Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm environ
Réf. : 134445
Edited by clovis on 25-01-2015 12:40
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 25-01-2015 15:26
#2
It is not
L. marina. It is male of Lispe palposa group, most probable candidates are:
L. loewi and
L. superciliosa, L. flavicincta is also possible. It is all I can by this photo. If you have othre photos (no mattet how "bad", post its, it may help.
Hennig is on German...
Posted by clovis on 30-01-2015 10:57
#3
Yep, i can have other picture, but much more ugly than in vivo: :)
And what are the criteria to look for to recognize L marina?
Do you need to see something particular?
So bad for Hennig :(
Edited by clovis on 31-01-2015 11:51
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-01-2015 12:35
#4
Yea, it is not well turned photo.
Nevertheless 99% L. loewi.
Check:
Hind coxa with seta on inner posterior side. Palpi black to dark brown. Arista distinctly longer than pospedicel, with long apical thin and bare part, aristal hairs about as long as postpedicel width. Vibrissae absent. Parafacials without dark spot in upper part. Chaetotaxy of t2: 1 ad seta placed distinctly above middle; 1(2) p seta(e) short and weak, also placed above middle; on v surface at apical half 1-2 strong spine-like seta(e) and a row of longer fine setae. tar2-1 with long fine curled ventral setae at base. Hind tarsus thin and long, about as long as t3.
Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 02-05-2015 20:54
Posted by clovis on 31-01-2015 12:55
#5
I have it all!!! :D Many thanks to you Nikita!
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 02-02-2015 14:23
#6
In my turn, thank you for testing my key.
(Hope to finish and publish revision of the Lispe palposa group this year.)
Posted by clovis on 03-02-2015 15:21
#7
A pleasure! :)
I'll be interested when you'll be done :)
