Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae ID -> pollenia amentaria?
Posted by bums on 31-08-2014 20:38
#1
hello, is this pollenia amentaria female?
found in Voeren,Belgium today
thanks in advance...chris
Posted by bums on 31-08-2014 20:39
#2
and this
Posted by ValerioW on 31-08-2014 21:42
#3
What I can see about abdomen appears to confirm your ID, but scutellar chaetotaxy makes me a little confused. Do you have more photos?
Posted by bums on 31-08-2014 22:01
#4
only this one
Posted by ValerioW on 31-08-2014 23:27
#5
Ooops. Basicosta, even if not well focused, doesn't look black but brown (at the best it can be considered dark brown). This rules out the whole "
amentaria group" . I'm sorry.
Posted by ValerioW on 31-08-2014 23:29
#6
Also scutellar setae apparently rule out
amentaria group.
Posted by bums on 01-09-2014 04:51
#7
Ok, lets see what others can make of it....
Posted by bums on 01-09-2014 05:11
#8
on 02-08 I found this ...male ?.... fly, which you, Valerio, determined as P.amentaria as well...but at further notice I think it could very well be the same species as the first fly ?
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=62570
on the other hand is the back shield truly different....
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 01-09-2014 18:23
#9
The basicosta is enough dark for
P. amentaria. The sharp facial keel is well visible, and I'm quite confident with
P. amentaria.
Posted by ValerioW on 01-09-2014 19:16
#10
Stephane Lebrun wrote:
The basicosta is enough dark for P. amentaria. The sharp facial keel is well visible, and I'm quite confident with P. amentaria.
Ok! I've never collected them and the few I saw were always with dark basicosta (like blackish)
Posted by bums on 01-09-2014 20:42
#11
Thanks a lot, Stephane and Valerio... :)
Posted by johnes81 on 28-11-2017 13:24
#12
I agree with Stephane:
Pollenia amentaria female
However, the color of the basicosta is helpful with Lucilia but not Pollenia. According to Dr. Rognes, the features mentioned in his publications have "no taxonomical value."