Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chloropidae

Posted by gardensafarinl on 15-08-2014 19:54
#1

While photographing a tiny moth (Pammene aurana) I discovered an extremely small fly close by. In one of the pictures this fly is quite clearly visible.
I think it is a Chloropidae.
But can anything more be said about it, like genus or even species?

It was photographed on July 23rd of this year in a botanical garden in Arnhem, the Netherlands.
Your help is much appreciated.

www.gardensafari.nl/temp/halmvliegje_hs14_2542.jpg

Posted by John Carr on 15-08-2014 22:45
#2

Chyromyidae

Posted by gardensafarinl on 15-08-2014 23:08
#3

Oh, that is a surprise.
I'll look into it further.
Maybe I'll find something, for there are only three species known from the Netherlands:
Chyromya flava
Chyromya oppidana
Gymnochiromyia flavella

So maybe I can find out.

Thanks a lot John!

Posted by empeejay on 16-08-2014 13:17
#4

It also looks very like Liriomyza lutea.

Posted by John Carr on 16-08-2014 13:36
#5

empeejay wrote:
It also looks very like Liriomyza lutea.


My usual rule is a "Chloropidae" with bristles is an Agromyzidae, but I didn't know of any Agromyizdae with such pale markings. North American Liriomyza are contrasting yellow and black, or yellow and dark brown.

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 20-08-2014 17:05
#6

Liiriomyza lutea (Meigen, 1830), Agromyzidae [= L. melanorhabda Hendel, 1931]. Larvae develop in seeds of Apiaceae, genera, Angelica, Heracleum, Pastinaca. A somewhat variable species with matt scutum, yellowish legs and yellowish wing veins. There are some few similar species with yellow patch before scutellum, e.g. L. oldenbergi Hering, 1933.

Posted by gardensafarinl on 21-08-2014 23:48
#7

von Tschirnhaus wrote:
Liiriomyza lutea (Meigen, 1830), Agromyzidae [= L. melanorhabda Hendel, 1931]. Larvae develop in seeds of Apiaceae, genera, Angelica, Heracleum, Pastinaca. A somewhat variable species with matt scutum, yellowish legs and yellowish wing veins. There are some few similar species with yellow patch before scutellum, e.g. L. oldenbergi Hering, 1933.


Thank you very much.
You are the 2nd one to vote for this family and even this species.
Which is great indeed.
Still I will wait for Paul Beuk's opinion.
But I would like to thank you once more, for my mind is almost made up.

Posted by Jan Willem on 22-08-2014 12:15
#8

Now Michael von Tschirnhaus has given his view on this specimen, I feel quit comfortable in following his opinion :).
So good call Empeejay!

Edited by Jan Willem on 22-08-2014 12:17

Posted by gardensafarinl on 22-08-2014 17:12
#9

Thanks all of you, for Michael must be right. I'll have it down as Liriomyza lutea.
Especially thanks to Michael and thanks to all the others for thinking along.
After all these are not the easiest of families!