Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Spilomyia manicata or S. saltuum?

Posted by Tjitske Lubach on 31-07-2014 14:01
#1

Today I found this big (ca. 15 mm) Spilomyia-fly on Daucus carota. I think this is Spilomyia manicata (tarsus 1 black) but I would to have it confirmed? Thanks in advance!

Date: 31-07-2014
Location: Saint Gilles, Indre, France

Tjitske Lubach

http://observado....w/86809226
uncertain Spilomyia manicata seen on 2014-07-31 France - La Fontoure

Pictures:
observado.org/fotonew/0/7120200.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/2/7120202.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/3/7120203.jpg

Edited by Tjitske Lubach on 24-04-2015 08:40

Posted by Ectemnius on 28-10-2014 19:04
#2

Hello Tjiske,

Spilomyia are hard to identify, despite the fact that they are big and brightly coloured. The black front tarsae is a feature shared by S. digitata and S. saltuum. S. manicata should have front tibia for more then half darkened. That seems to be the case. The anterior bands on T3 and 4 are, however slightly, interrupted. Which would plead for S. saltuum. There seem to be too much spots on the sides of the thorax, but its hard to make out. If that is the case this would again plead for S. saltuum. The latter is unfortunately the only species of this magnificent genus I have any experience with. Hope this helped...

Greetings,

Ectemnius

Posted by Tjitske Lubach on 24-04-2015 08:39
#3

I am sorry I didn't react on your answer earlier Ectemnius. I only saw it today. I had placed the fly later in the diptera adults forum and got a reply that it could well be Spilomyia manicata, but the person said he wasn't an expert.

http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=63945

So I will leave it undecided and hope that I will see the species again this year.

Thank you very much,