Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Small Asilidae ID -> Lasiopogon

Posted by Ktyr on 27-05-2014 02:07
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Here's what Dr. Cannings said: "The Iberian peninsula, including the Pyrenees, has plenty of undescribed species. I’ve been sent one recently from Portugal, and have photos of another from there that’s clearly different. Neither seem to match L. velutinus, the only described Portuguese species (I did take notes and made drawings of this). The Pyrenees species are mostly similar to L. appeninus and L. grajus rather than the montanus/ bellardii type of alpine species. The appeninus group often have a more or less polished look to the notum and abdominal tergites and the epandrium in lateral view is rather narrow and bowed. Some other lowland species from Spain (and Greece, too, by the way), as you say, I put in a cinctus group (and still others, such as L. velutinus) are likely in other groups as yet undefined). The one in the photos you mention might be a cinctus type, although it’s hard to be sure. The main problem is that there are surprisingly few specimens of these southern European species in any collections (Like Turkey, which I’m convinced has many undescribed species – more than just the two or three I’ve found). I’m afraid I have few details on the specimens from Huesca: Ordesa (“cin-2”, Natural History Museum, London) or Aragon: Albarracin (“cin-1”, Munich collection). Both are single males and I dissected them both.

Sorry I’m not much help here, Tristan, but we need specimens! It would be great if you could get European material for DNA analyses –more than just L. cinctus and that alpine species Eric gave me."

So, the sad answer is, we don't know. He didn't actually revise the western Palearctic taxa in his book, so they await some enterprising future worker.