Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Clytiomya sola? -Hungary >Eliozeta helluo

Posted by piros on 30-10-2012 10:55
#1

Hi Forum! I found this fly in Szeged, S. Hungary. Date: 11.08.2012. The site is covered by ruderal vegetation, but is home of many southern/submediterranean sp. My best guess is Clytiomya sola male.

Thanks for any help!


Henrik

Edited by piros on 03-11-2012 23:54

Posted by piros on 30-10-2012 11:01
#2

2nd pic.

Posted by piros on 30-10-2012 11:06
#3

Pic 3

Posted by piros on 30-10-2012 11:08
#4

Pic 4

Posted by ChrisR on 30-10-2012 12:11
#5

Did you rule out the genus Eliozeta?

Posted by piros on 30-10-2012 16:14
#6

ChrisR wrote:
Did you rule out the genus Eliozeta?


No, not really, my "second best" guess was Eliozeta helluo... However, it seems to me that E. helluo males have relatively large chaetae at the posterior edge of each tergum, which this fly does not seem to have. Also, vertex seems to be broader in E. helluo males. But these differences may be irrelevant for distinguishing between the two sp....

Posted by piros on 02-11-2012 13:15
#7

In all of my pictures, including those above, I can discern only one ad bristle on the midle tibia. Isn't it good enough to exlude Eliozeta? (Eliozeta seems to have two.)

Edited by piros on 02-11-2012 21:56

Posted by Zeegers on 03-11-2012 18:29
#8

Very interesting.
First of all, it is Eliozeta. The hairs on tergites are all adpressed.
It looks different from E.helluond that is because E. helluo from southern countries are much more orange on tergites (and some other differences).
Clearly, Szeged in the southern form area !

If you see those again, please collect !!


Theo

Posted by piros on 03-11-2012 23:51
#9

Thank you very much, Theo! So it is Eliozeta helluo after all :) I certainly will collect them (if I see them again, that is...)!

Kind regards,

Henrik