Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Copula, Musca domestica. Confirmation please.!

Posted by Maherjos on 27-10-2012 09:10
#1

Photograph taken on October, 21 2012, in the wetlands of the Suárez Pond, Motril, Granada, Spain.
Immediate area of the Mediterranean coast.

Appreciate your cooperation for identification.-

I would appreciate your help identifying this dipterous -
Thank you.

Edited by Maherjos on 27-10-2012 18:57

Posted by andrzej grzywacz on 27-10-2012 10:45
#2

Musca autumnalis

Posted by Maherjos on 27-10-2012 15:06
#3

andrzej grzywacz wrote:
Musca autumnalis


Very grateful for their identification. :)

Best regards.

Posted by tristram on 27-10-2012 16:50
#4

I thought the gap between the eyes was narrower in male autumnalis, for example compare these:
http://www.dipter...oto_id=525
http://www.dipter...to_id=2612
(But I am no expert)

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-10-2012 18:39
#5

I am not an expert either, but my thought was domestica too. Not only the gap on the frons of the male looks a bit too wide to me, also the dark area on the frons of the female looks too wide for autumnalis. But again, my experience on Musca is nearly nill. I only talk through theory ;) However, I would love to see the light finally with these :)

Posted by Maherjos on 27-10-2012 18:48
#6

tristram wrote:
I thought the gap between the eyes was narrower in male autumnalis, for example compare these:
http://www.dipter...oto_id=525
http://www.dipter...to_id=2612
(But I am no expert)


In fact, overall, I'm very ignorant to know how to identify. And so I can only .... ask the experts.
Really do not know the exact difference between Musca domestica and Musca autumnalis. From the examples you cite, in the second of them, it seems to me very similar to the male that appears in my picture, so I can not find any difference.
Maybe someone else wants to give us his expert opinion and we clarify possible doubts.

Thank you for your feedback.

Posted by Maherjos on 27-10-2012 18:54
#7

Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
I am not an expert either, but my thought was domestica too. Not only the gap on the frons of the male looks a bit too wide to me, also the dark area on the frons of the female looks too wide for autumnalis. But again, my experience on Musca is nearly nill. I only talk through theory ;) However, I would love to see the light finally with these :)


Piluca Thanks for contributing your knowledge.
Although you say you have no experience in Musca, I trust quite of your opinion, so I'll change the title to that effect.
It would be great if another expert, also we would like to give your opinion. Maybe then I come to find out what the real difference between the two species.

Kind regards.