Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyia pluvialis (male).

Posted by Maherjos on 10-03-2012 19:01
#1

Photograph taken on March 11, 2012, in the wetlands of the Suárez Pond, Motril, Granada, Spain.
Immediate area of the Mediterranean coast.
Apparent size with wings, about 7-8 mm

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I would appreciate your help identifying this dipterous -
Best regards!

Edited by Maherjos on 14-03-2012 20:37

Posted by Mucha Fero on 10-03-2012 19:14
#2

I think it's Anthomyia procellaris (male)

Mucha Fero

Posted by Maherjos on 10-03-2012 19:53
#3

Mucha Fero wrote:
I think it's Anthomyia procellaris (male)

Mucha Fero


Very grateful for their identification. :)

Best regards from the south of Spain.

Posted by Stephen R on 11-03-2012 10:11
#4

Because the black spots above the wing base are separated, A. pluvialis may be more likely.

Posted by Maherjos on 11-03-2012 17:49
#5

Stephen R wrote:
Because the black spots above the wing base are separated, A. pluvialis may be more likely.


It is true that in this fly, the spots on the base of the wings are clearly separated.

As I have no knowledge to discern, I edit the title with its proposal to try to confirm it with other opinions.

Also I will upload another picture to try to make it look better that detail.

My thanks for your support and assistance.

Best regards.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 11-03-2012 19:26
#6

I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia quinquemaculata Macq, which is a southern European species. It seems to be large for pluvialis. But it is impossible to identify these Anthomyia species without a lateral view of the male 5th sternite, which is distinctive for most species. Therefore you will have to catch one and mount it if you wish to make a positive identification. They are too difficult generally to recognise from a photo, especially a photo of a living fly taken from above

Posted by Maherjos on 11-03-2012 20:25
#7

Michael Ackland wrote:
I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia quinquemaculata Macq, which is a southern European species. It seems to be large for pluvialis. But it is impossible to identify these Anthomyia species without a lateral view of the male 5th sternite, which is distinctive for most species. Therefore you will have to catch one and mount it if you wish to make a positive identification. They are too difficult generally to recognise from a photo, especially a photo of a living fly taken from above


Very grateful for their reasoning and data provided.
Add a more lateral view, to try to help in identification.

Best Regards

Edited by Maherjos on 11-03-2012 20:27