Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Colored brazilian fly

Posted by Techuser on 10-02-2012 06:27
#1

I have no idea even on the family of this one, they're not rare though, found in São Paulo state, rainforest area

farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6798649251_87fea41c3d_z.jpg

I don't know if I saw other similar species, if not, it has other color morphs with blue or orange strips instead of green

Posted by Paul Beuk on 10-02-2012 09:56
#2

Without a look a the wing venation I cannot rule out Xylomyidae but I'd say Stratiomyidae because I do not expect that kind of antennae on Xylomyidae.

Posted by ChrisR on 10-02-2012 10:14
#3

Reminds me of the stratiomyid (Heptozus) on the front cover of the Manual of Central American Diptera (volume 1) :)

Posted by Paul Beuk on 10-02-2012 10:35
#4

I had that association as well, but the antennae are different

Posted by ChrisR on 10-02-2012 12:05
#5

Just goes to show ... tachinid guys should never dabble in Stratiomyomorpha ... I will just concentrate on Panthophthamidae in the future ;)

Edited by ChrisR on 10-02-2012 12:06

Posted by Jan Willem on 10-02-2012 12:15
#6

I would still go for Stratiomyiidae.

Posted by Techuser on 10-02-2012 14:57
#7

Thanks! I searched Stratiomyiidae and found some pictures on flickr, Jorge says it's Heptozus species in one of them

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-02-2012 16:15
#8

And the scutellum has a strong spine in this photo - it is out of focus, though. Wing venation must show the typical polygonal cell.
I'd go to Stratiomyidae as well. Paul is right about the antennae - different from those depicted in the cover of MCAD.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 10-02-2012 16:34

Posted by blowave on 10-02-2012 16:36
#9

Hello! :D

I've done some searching and found a fly like yours on flickr, comments suggesting first Heptozus on the front cover of the Manual of Central American Diptera (volume 1), the same person is then unsure due to the antennae and suggests Lysozus has shorter antennae with a caution.

http://www.flickr...061716612/

I can't find any photos of the other suggested species, but I found the Manual mentioned on google books with keys and notes below highlighting genera in South America.

http://books.goog...mp;f=false

I found another pdf with keys but this is for Central America, however many are in South America also.

http://afrotropic...myidae.pdf

There's some specimens on the Harvard Entomology site, I searched for order diptera, the database wasn't open to search for Neotropical so I searched on the page of diptera results for Stratiomyidae then had to click on each to see if it was Neotropical, there's several there with specimens which might be useful.

http://insects.oe...amp;-find=

Janet

Posted by Techuser on 13-02-2012 10:54
#10

Good to see you here Janet
Looked up Lysozus and if the species databases I've seem are correct then there is only one species, Lysozus columbianus, and no pictures anywhere. I guess its better leave just as Raphiocerinae :|

Edited by Techuser on 13-02-2012 10:55

Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-02-2012 11:26
#11

I have seen some images of Dicranophora that come close...