Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pallopteridae from June (17.06.11): Palloptera umbellatarum? --> confirmed

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-12-2011 19:17
#1

Hello!

Or are there similar species? About 4.5 mm, at at forest path (northwest Germany).

Edited by Juergen Peters on 12-12-2011 19:01

Posted by libor on 11-12-2011 19:30
#2

Do you have picture of thorax from side view? There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta. P.u. seems to be more probably according to wing color pattern, but I am not absolutely sure without seeing setae on thorax from side view...
Libor

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-12-2011 19:56
#3

Hello, Libor!

libor wrote:
Do you have picture of thorax from side view?


No, sorry, this is the only picture I could take.

There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta.


Interesting, thanks! I did not know of Toxoneura modesta. I guess this is a newer synonym of Palloptera modesta?

Posted by libor on 11-12-2011 21:46
#4

Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly.
Libor

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-12-2011 22:05
#5

libor wrote:
Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly.


Thanks a lot, Libor!

Posted by libor on 12-12-2011 08:02
#6

So, for 95%, you can call your animal P. umbellatarum, Juergen!
Libor

Posted by Jan Willem on 12-12-2011 12:44
#7

Hello Juergen,

In Toxoneura modesta there is no spot on the anal vein. So T. modesta is not an option.

Posted by Juergen Peters on 12-12-2011 19:00
#8

Hello, Libor and Jan Willem,

thanks once more!