Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Piophilidae, Actenoptera hilarella (Norway)

Posted by Geir79 on 01-06-2011 18:48
#1

Found this 01.06.2011, size approx. 5 mm. Location is Bodø, northern Norway. Possible to identify to family?

Edited by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 18:22

Posted by Geir79 on 01-06-2011 18:49
#2

Another photo:

Posted by Geir79 on 01-06-2011 18:50
#3

Last photo:

Posted by Tony Irwin on 01-06-2011 21:44
#4

Sciomyzidae?:|

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 01-06-2011 22:12
#5

Clusiidae Clusiinae; however, I do not have this in my collection

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 01-06-2011 22:52
#6

I doubt it is a Clusiidae.
Why not Actenoptera hilarella of the Piophilidae which is entirely yellow, with thickened hind femur bearing 2 rows of shorts setulae beneath ?

Posted by Geir79 on 01-06-2011 23:31
#7

I can magnify parts of the photos if there are some details that are important for identifying? And found several of these, right outside my doorstep... Can bring one inside and take photos with my USB-microscope.

Was thinking of Piophilidae, but the key I used described them as typically black species...(otherwise it fits description in the key). But are no expert on Diptera!

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 02-06-2011 08:40
#8

I would be interested by having 1 or 2 specimens if possible. ;)
For the expertise, you can try to contact Dr. Andrey Ozerov.
Actenoptera is in the Neottiophilinae subfamily which contains yellowish Piophilidae, and there are other yellow piophilids in Piophilinae, like Mycetaulus spp.

Posted by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 09:06
#9

If they still are where I found them, I could collect, yes. Very slow moving flies too...

Searched on the name, found a short description of this species on the norwegian version of Wikipedia, seems to be rare. So got a little curious about it, would be nice with species level ID.

Guess I'll go looking for some flies right now, have some spare time today!

Posted by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 11:28
#10

Got one of them now. Size is 6,5 mm. Are plants I found them on important information? No good at botany, but may take photos...

Never collect insects myself, so don't know what to do with it now:|

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-06-2011 12:04
#11

Send it to me. ;) To kill it you might put it in the freezer for a while and the keep it in a small dry box where it can not move too much, or, if you have a small container, you can put it in alcohol (anything of 40% +, the higher the better).

Posted by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 14:42
#12

Found another one, now I got two specimens. Number two is 5-5,5 mm.
Two should be enough? Who shall I send it to? Guess I'll get the adress? Have no alcohol, will send it dry.

Photo of fly number two:

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 02-06-2011 18:08
#13

Mea culpa. I was thinking of Actenoptera option, but the frontal setae were so intricating... With three katepisternals, bare scutellum and clearly lateroclinate orbitals as on photo 2 it must be Actenoptera hilarella Ztt., so Stephan is absolutely right.

Posted by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 18:35
#14

Thanks, then I guess there's no doubt about Actenoptera hilarella. Still got the two flies (alive), can send if someone are interested.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 02-06-2011 18:42
#15

And you have got the first pictures available on the Net !
As I said, I'd want a specimen. Give the second one to Paul !

Posted by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 19:01
#16

Yes, I could do that! Also noticed that there were no photos when I googled the name! :) Where do I get your adresses?

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-06-2011 20:55
#17

Mine is HERE. :D

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 02-06-2011 21:16
#18

Lucky you! [envy on my face]
:D

Posted by Paul Beuk on 09-06-2011 15:42
#19

A female was now added to the Maastricht Natural History Museum collection. Thanks.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 09-06-2011 16:33
#20

And another one to my box. Thanks Geir !

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 09-06-2011 19:39
#21

By the way, mine is a male.