Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae or Tachinidae ?
Posted by pat_der2003 on 07-03-2011 19:59
#1
Is it possible to put a name on this fly, at least a family name, with this very general picture ?
As identified on a French forum, the spider's name is
Nigma walkenaeri (Dyctinidae).
Thanks a lot !!
Edited by pat_der2003 on 07-03-2011 20:02
Posted by Zeegers on 08-03-2011 18:43
#2
Is this the only pic ?
Theo
Posted by pat_der2003 on 08-03-2011 20:45
#3
I'm afraid so ... :( i was obsessed by the scene and didn't manage to get better pictures of the fly ...
But i made this big crop ... may be it is more helpful even if it's blur ?!?!
Posted by Jaakko on 08-03-2011 22:10
#4
Quite much demanded...Seems pretty small, so my bet is a male
Eloceria delecta. Tachinidae anyways.
Edited by Jaakko on 08-03-2011 22:10
Posted by neprisikiski on 08-03-2011 22:47
#5
Male
Eloceria would have yellow base of femur 3, so it is not
Eloceria delecta. And
Eriothrix would have tergites with discal bristles, so it is not
Eriothrix. Hmm... should be some
Musca...
Posted by ChrisR on 08-03-2011 23:27
#6
Yeah, I am struggling to make this into a tach because I cannot see enough to be confident that I could attribute it to a genus or species ... to be honest I would probably just say that I am "data deficient" :D
Edited by ChrisR on 08-03-2011 23:28
Posted by Jaakko on 09-03-2011 10:10
#7
neprisikiski wrote:
Male Eloceria would have yellow base of femur 3, so it is not Eloceria delecta. And Eriothrix would have tergites with discal bristles, so it is not Eriothrix. Hmm... should be some Musca...
Is the femur color a stable feature? The bend of the m-vein seems to steep for a muscid. There are some reddish-yellow rhinophorids as well, but the calyptrae are not really visible..
Edited by Jaakko on 09-03-2011 10:11
Posted by neprisikiski on 09-03-2011 15:32
#8
Well, at least distance between crossveins is extremly short in
Eloceria delecta, not as in this specimen.
Aphria without discal bristles, but I do not think it is
Aphria, no strong bristles on tibiae, like in many Tachinidae. Rhinophoridae with reddish abdomen including tergite 5? I would vote for
Musca...
Posted by Jaakko on 09-03-2011 22:59
#9
Ok, well argumented. :) I´m out of guesses...
Jaakko
Posted by pat_der2003 on 10-03-2011 18:41
#10
Thank you to all of you !! ;)
you've done your best but this picture is obviously too anonymous !! :| ;)