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Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 22:29

Hi

This seemed to be a phaeomyiid... but then all costa is very spiny... and it has vibrissae... heleomyzoid fly...

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:00

Posted by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 22:52

Why did you say Phaeomyiid fly !
It is Suillia !!! A male !!! I see a dot before anterior crossvein ? Isn't it ?
If yes, so Suillia bistrigata (Lw) :D

Edited by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 22:54

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 22:57

I told it looks like a phaeomyiid... and it really looks. But when we see the fly carefully it turns out to be a Heleomyzid. ;) Phaeomyiid has no vibrissae neither spiny costa neither strong bristles on scutum. But in the field I thought it because I used to find Phaeomyiid these days at final afternoon. A pity... I would like to see again the Pelidnoptera!

And you are right. it is a dot ;) Is this Suillia rare?

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:00

Posted by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 23:00

#10

Very nice and typical Mediterranean species :-) but not more than a hundred and one specimens ... were collected ;)
Andrzej

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:02

#11

Nice! If I find more specimens... I can send you if you wish.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:02

Posted by Mark-uk on 05-04-2010 23:04

#12

yet another Heleomyzidae. they seem to be on this site a lot, surely that is a queue for someone to write a new key? or to publicise an existing one?

I have lot of Heleomyzids I would like to put a name too.

What keys should I be using?

Posted by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 23:16

#13

Ok Jorge,
collect plz more, maybe more unrecorded species will be found ??? - maybe a new one: S. prope lusitanica or S. jorgi will be found ;)
Concerning the Suillia key, I use my private: Cogan + Czerny + Gorodkov + Whiters, including my experiences.
Concerning the Great Britain Collin, 1943 + Withers, P., 1987, and Gorodkov translations (http://books.google.com/books?id=dsoUAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA510&lpg=PA510&dq=Gorodkov+helomyzidae&source=bl&ots=FjuaVFk8a0&sig=axYavUgmvZW0yks79H2U8o5-l60&hl=pl&ei=TWC6S5KxIuSHOOuBkaEL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Gorodkov%20helomyzidae&f=false) could be use
I have to write a new one to the Europaean species ... with Phil ;)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:19

#15

Who knows? ;)

ps Select all the link and then use the symbol after the underline symbol (U).

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:20

Posted by Roger Thomason on 05-04-2010 23:20

#16

Mark-uk wrote:
yet another Heleomyzidae. they seem to be on this site a lot,
I have lot of Heleomyzids I would like to put a name too.

Hi Mark,
Post them on here, Andrzej will stick a name to them faster than you can say his name. ;) P Might need pics of dorsal and lateral views.

Roger

Posted by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 23:27

#17

hehehe !
not always ! Now, my black cat is sleeping, and I have to drink black coffee (Dallmayr freshly freshly ground coffee) !