Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae, Chirosia ? from Romania
Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2008 16:47
#1
Hi,
At beginning of july i have been up in Retezat National Park. In a lot of places i have found galls (rolled leaf) on
Dryopteris filix-mas.
From what i have read he causer is an anthomiid Chirosia betuleti.
Are also other species associated with this fern? I ask this because from what i seen on Fauna Europaea is not present in Romania (the closest country in which is signaled is Slovakia) (
http://www.faunae...on1=129180 ).
If is this species and not yet signaled will be good o have some adults i think, how to proceed for this?
First photo: the gall
Thanks for the help,
cosmln
[EDIT]: title updated
Edited by cosmln on 25-07-2008 21:17
Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2008 16:48
#2
a more general aspect
Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2008 16:50
#3
one larva inside the gall.
p.s.
Paul, i think this is better to go in other section of the forum, larva..., sorry for that
Posted by Michael Ackland on 25-07-2008 17:37
#4
This is particularly interesting to me. If you pick the galls when the larvae are fully grown, place the galls on some damp sand in a container. You might be lucky and the adults will emerge (?when).
I will name any adult males if you send them to me.
There are no recorded Chirosia species bred from Dryopteris, but perhaps this name is a synonym of another genus? C. betuleti has been bred from Athyrium
If you send me your email address by private message I will send you a PDF on a paper I wrote on Chirosia griseifrons and Athyrium
Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2008 21:08
#5
Michael Ackland wrote:
This is particularly interesting to me. If you pick the galls when the larvae are fully grown, place the galls on some damp sand in a container. You might be lucky and the adults will emerge (?when).
I will name any adult males if you send them to me.
There are no recorded Chirosia species bred from Dryopteris, but perhaps this name is a synonym of another genus? C. betuleti has been bred from Athyrium
If you send me your email address by private message I will send you a PDF on a paper I wrote on Chirosia griseifrons and Athyrium
Hi Michael ,
Now i have checked he identity of the fern, indeed this is
Anthyrium filix-femina.
I'm not sure if the thing with
Dryopteris is not from the book with British Galls (the book is it at office and i will not be there until next week to check).
Hope that this next week i will go up in the mountain and if still find larva i will collect some and hopping to have some adults.
I will send you a PM with my email address.
Also i don't know if you have seen this post:
http://www.dipter...d_id=14630 , maybe you are interested in anthomyiid? Maybe i will not be able to put all in one place, maybe some will go at Nikita.
thanks a lot for your help,
cosmln