Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Polietes lardaria ?
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 23-11-2007 23:09
#1
hello flyforum,
First I though this was Polietes lardaria, but I am not convinced.
What about the colour of the anterior spiracle?
Is it posible that this is some other Polietes species?
Robert,
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 23-11-2007 23:09
#2
2 pic
Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 23-11-2007 23:10
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-11-2007 23:20
#3
I'd say you are right, Robert - correct name
Polietes lardarius
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 23-11-2007 23:30
#4
hair on the eyes, anterior spiracle is greyish (not colourful)..
What makes this Polietes lardarius specificly? :)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-11-2007 23:41
#5
Compare with:
http://www.diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=1274
Also P.meridionalis is Submediterrenian species less probable in the Netherlands
Nikita
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 24-11-2007 15:29
#6
I do not agree with that, Nikita. I'd say
P. meridionalis is pretty common in the Netherlands, at least where I live (in the center of the country).
Since you identified my first
meridionalis (photos are now in the gallery), I have found and photographed many more at the same location and at other locations. Mostly in half open areas with older trees, water and grassland nearby.
I have the impression that
meridionalis is more common here than
lardarius.
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 25-11-2007 20:36
#7
Maybe P. meridionalis can be pretty common here and there?!...
I think flyspecies can differ a lot in occurence, so are the biotopes.
Posted by John Bratton on 30-11-2007 17:10
#8
Is P. meridionalis on the British list yet? I caught a Polietes last week (North Wales) that keyed to lardarius (hairs on the little plate between the front legs, prosternum?) in Fonseca's RES key, but had a brown face and bright yellow front spiracle, which according to Gregor et al. makes it meridionalis.
So I looked out a "lardarius" from this area two years ago, and it also has a brown face and yellow spiracle.
Both are females so the leg spine character is no use. And both were taken late in the year (Nov and Dec) so I was wondering if lardarius tend to be browner at this time of year. But if meridionalis is common in The Netherlands, Wales does not sound so unlikely.
John Bratton