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| Arthropa |
Posted on 11-09-2007 22:04
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 Member Location: Fragnes (Burgundy, France) Posts: 181 Joined: 15.06.04 |
Hello, I'd like some help with this one, having lunch on some Apiaceae    (Rimont, Burgundy, France - June 2003 - no precise dimension, sorry  )I first would have thought it is some kind of Ectophasia, but I've been told it is much probably some Eliozeta or some Clytiomyia. I'm sorry, these picts are pretty bad looking, and I have no bigger size : this was not a digital camera on that time !  I hope this will be enough for a genus.Thanks for your help Benoit Benoit MARTHA _________________________________ http://arthropa.f... (website in french) |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 11-09-2007 23:00
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 6967 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Yes, definitely NOT Ectophasia - more likely to be Eliozeta (or as Theo calls it - Heliozeta  ) |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-09-2007 21:27
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 7334 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I'm sorry to disturb the consensus, but I don't agree. The wings are distinctly darkened, which is never the case in Heliozeta or Clytiomyia. Moreover, it is darkened in a way that is characteristic for the female of Ectophasia.... leucoptera (there it is !). So that's where my money is (other features are difficult to see) Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 12-09-2007 21:36
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 6967 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Ahh, i never saw E.leucoptera  This just doesn't look like any of my Ectophasia |
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| Arthropa |
Posted on 13-09-2007 13:11
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Member Location: Fragnes (Burgundy, France) Posts: 181 Joined: 15.06.04 |
Thanks Theo and Chris ! I spent some time searching, but there it is, I found my photos, and I re-scanned them : they're not better, but they're bigger !  Here it is :    Does this help ? Confirmation of E. leucoptera female ? Benoit MARTHA _________________________________ http://arthropa.f... (website in french) |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-09-2007 13:14
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 6967 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I am wondering if the wing-shading is really an optical illusion caused by darkness/shadows in the background? Also, I have examined my female Ectophasia crassipennis here and they definitely don't have such stong bristles on the abdomen, as seen on these photos. My money is still with Eliozeta/Clytiomyia
Edited by ChrisR on 13-09-2007 13:24 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-09-2007 20:49
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 7334 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Chris is completely right. I got fooled by the background, as already suggested. It's a female, quite orange, with shorter third antennal segment, so (H)eliozeta helluo female is the first that comes in mind. Theo |
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