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 Syrphidae - Ceriana vespiformis
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 25-08-2007 23:50
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.08.24 * size - 6 mm (medium fly) * habitat - open land * substrate - on Mentha sp. flower Is this fly a male? This Conops seems to have much fewer yellow comparing with the Conops flavipes. And it has wings with spots.. The transition between the head and thorax is unusual.  EDIT----> Title changed from "Another (strange) Conopidae - Conops ??" to "Syrphidae - Ceriana conopsoides" and then to "Syrphidae - Ceriana vespiformis" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [188.24Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2007 10:51 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 25-08-2007 23:53
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this must be a new conops!
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 25-08-2007 23:58
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another view..
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 00:01
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another view...
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 00:09
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
not good.. (blurry) but the head is very similar to Chrysotoxum intermedium (Syrphidae)!  See a photo taken by myself here for compare the two : http://www.flickr...402&size=l >> Chrysotoxum intermedium in the first photo >> Conops ?? in the second photo 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 26-08-2007 08:31
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Congratulations, Jorge, you fell into a familiar pitfall It's Ceriana conopsoides (or another Ceriana) in the family Syrphidae. There is a reason why it's called conopsoides !! Look at the antennae, they are implanted on a bizarre conical projection of the forehead. Unique. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 09:29
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
oh... no. great mimics with Conopidae! Really I thought this was strange for conopid... It seems that this is rare..  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 09:34
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I was blind because I didn't take a look to wing venation!!! Typical wing venation for Syrphidae!! This is the best mimics between 2 families (Syrphidae <> Conopidae) I've seen so far. Really the names fits very well: conopsoides -- similiar to Conops. Thanks, Theo! More one for the gallery.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2007 09:37 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 09:37
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
John Smit found one as well. it seems that Syrphidae gallery grew up very fast! |
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| Alvesgaspar |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:08
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 Member Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 571 Joined: 24.08.07 |
I agree it is Ceriana conopsoides. I took some photos of another one in Lisbon, Portugal. Joaquim Gaspar Lisbon |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:16
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hello, I agree with Ceriana, but no with conopsoides. Entirely yellow scutellum and mostly yellow femora indicate Ceriana vespiformis. Greetings. Stephane. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
HI Stephane, You are most probably right. I had a disclaimer formulated on the species level, to lazy to get to my books. The colouration on the scutellum is crucial, yellow either bicolor, but I can't remember it by heart. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:43
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I just checked the gallery, Stephane is completely right: This is a male C. vespiformis. Most common species on the Iberian peninsula. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:51
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Thanks to all. Really this fly cheated me! |
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but don't see the image in the post.