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| Iolaire |
Posted on 19-07-2016 15:03
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 Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
I found this possible Anthomyiidae species in woodlands near Ede (NL) on July 13th. Is it possible to ID it? Thank you.
Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 19-07-2016 15:08
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Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
I can't seem to upload the pictures so I've put in a link to the photo's on waarneming.nl: http://waarneming.../121531873 Best regards, Iolaire |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 19-07-2016 15:27
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 Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2331 Joined: 13.02.09 |
It is Muscidae, probably Coenosia mollicula.
Best wishes, Niels-Jan Dek |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 19-07-2016 16:54
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Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
That's a surprise. I keep confusing these Coenosia's with Anthomyiidae  Thanks Niels-Jan! Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 19-07-2016 17:25
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
It's a pity, the only thing that could be determinant to confirm this, namely the calypters, is blurred. 
Stephane. |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 19-07-2016 18:11
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Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
I still have it so I'll try to capture the calypters better. Thanx!
Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 20-07-2016 10:00
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Anthomyiidae have a small ventral seta on hind tarsomere near base. Muscidae don't have this (except one one small genus). This is visible in your last photo. Attached Zaphe divisa hind tarsomere to show this character. Michael Ackland attached the following image:  [73.28Kb] |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 20-07-2016 13:47
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Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
Hello Michael, thank you for this information. I will keep that in mind. You mean that it's not present on the hind tarsomere of the fly in my pictures? Cos I can't see it 
Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 20-07-2016 15:21
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Iolaire, your fly is for sure a Coenosia (Muscidae), so it hasn't the Anthomyiidae tarsal bristle.
Stephane. |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 20-07-2016 17:03
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
The genus of Muscidae which have this seta is Drymeia, according to Adrian Pont when I asked him about it. I have not found any anthomyiids without it, but I can't say it is true for all species.
Edited by Michael Ackland on 20-07-2016 17:04 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 20-07-2016 19:38
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Michael Ackland wrote: The genus of Muscidae which have this seta is Drymeia, according to Adrian Pont when I asked him about it. I'm not surprised. I have always taken the Drymeia genus as the "bridge" genus betweenboth families. Drymeia share many characters with Antomyiidae (small calypters, hind tibia with more than one pd, etc.). Stephane. |
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