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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 15-06-2016 21:58
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South-east Norway 26. May 2016 Mixed forest 12 - 13 mm Morten A Mjelde attached the following image:  [188.27Kb] Edited by Morten A Mjelde on 27-06-2016 23:43 |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 15-06-2016 21:59
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Posted on 15-06-2016 21:59
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Posted on 15-06-2016 22:00
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Posted on 15-06-2016 22:00
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Posted on 15-06-2016 22:01
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-06-2016 07:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18528 Joined: 21.07.04 |
That is the male of Panzeria (previously: Ernestia) laevigata. Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 16-06-2016 21:44
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Great! Thank you! Rosevinge |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-06-2016 20:13
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18528 Joined: 21.07.04 |
This call was based on the width of vertex. However, it has been claimed correctly that there are easily overlooked apical scutellar bristles and moreover the claws are pretty long. Hence, it cannot be laevigata and must be in the rudis-complex. IN Europe so far only rudis, but more species in the eastern Palaearctic. So please collect so we can see the genitalia ! Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 28-06-2016 00:10
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Thanks for the information! I have kept the fly - but it guess it is necessary to have a fresh specimen (not a dry one) to see the genetalia. Rosevinge |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 28-06-2016 06:45
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18528 Joined: 21.07.04 |
No, a dry one is no problem, simply more work. THe genitalia can be extracted. Make an old paper extremely wet and put it in a plastic container. Make sure there is only damp, no real water. Put the fly on a tempex on the paper, close the box and leave it 8-12 hours. More like 12, in this case. THen the abdomen will be flexible and you can pull out the genitalia with a pin. In Panzeria, the genitalia is very stuck in the abdomen, so you probably need to use a lot of force. Good luck Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 28-06-2016 22:41
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Well, I`ll see what I can do.... :-) Rosevinge |
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but don't see the image in the post.
