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Greenish calliphorid (?): -> Bellardia bayeri!
Andreas Haselboeck
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Hello

This greenish and a bit blue shining fly was siiting on flowers in my garden (Stuttgart, Southwest Germany). Date: 29. Oktober 2015, bodylenght 7mm.

Calliphoridae? Bellardia? Melinda? Something else?

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I'd say Onesia.
let' s hear Stephane.

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Thanks Theo, this is also possible.

Are this the 3 ia?
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No, they are not on the same line : 3 is the post-alar.
This one gave me a headache. In my (not expert) opinion, this is Bellardia bayeri., the only european described Bellardia with infuscated lower calypter. I'm not sure it has the required brown spot on parafacial from these pictures.
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Hi Stephane,
thanks!

The fly is in my Refrigerator :-) So I can try to photograph some more Details. But I don't know, where this "brown spot on parafacial" is... (my english is very bad...)

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It should have a dark spot (eine dunkle Fleck) on the upper part of facial plates about this place (see illustration).

I don't know if other pictures can reveal this.
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If the fly is dead you can also send it to me for genitalia examination.
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Hi,
I'm very happy to confirm Bellardia bayeri after genitalia examination. The differences with Bellardia viarum are subtle, it took some time before I was completely sure.
Stephane.
 
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Excellent work, Stephane !
I will never master these Bellardia's and Pollenia's.....


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