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 Identification issue with an Heleomyzidae
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 12-09-2015 00:57
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Hello, Here enclosed, a link to some pictures of an heleomyzidae which as been seen in the darkness of a bunker on the Col de Tende (in the Alpes at around 1800m high) at the border France/Italy. I am not sure whether the picture will be sufficient to determine the genus/specie, but any clue or idea are welcome.  http://www.insect...p;t=146559 Thanx for your help! -Bscrl- Edited by Bscrl on 12-09-2015 00:59 |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 15-09-2015 00:54
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it?
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 03-10-2015 20:37
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Andrzej wrote: male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it? Thanks a lot for your feedback, unfortunatly, i didn't collect it.  Are you sure about the genus Gymnomus ? Because someone suggested Scoliocentra (villosa (?)) because of the 'short' basitarsus. Best Regards, -Bscrl- Edited by Bscrl on 03-10-2015 20:39 |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 03-10-2015 21:41
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Mesopleuron bare! Isn't it? 
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 04-10-2015 08:54
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Hello Andrzej, Thanks a lot for your feedback. As a beginner, i am not sure about what is called Mesopleuron, and since depending the authors, it seems that this term can be ambiguous, just to understand your question in the right way, i have a little adding question : In the Fig 5 of the chapter "Thorax of Dipter" of http://www.giand....mp;lang=en, to which area (from 8 to 14) are you refering to ? Many thanks again for your help -Bscrl- |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 04-10-2015 09:41
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Here is the mesopleuron , nowadays mostly called the anepisternum.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 04-10-2015 10:14
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Thanks Paul for this precision Then yes , as far as i can see on the pictures i've taken, the anepisternum of my heleomyzidae looks hairless Is Gymnomus the only genus of Heleomyzidae having this characteristic ? Edited by Bscrl on 04-10-2015 10:30 |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 04-10-2015 11:02
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9839 Joined: 22.10.10 |
In the key to nearctic Heleomyzidae, several genera have bare anepisternum. |
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 05-10-2015 00:27
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Is that key public ? |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 05-10-2015 01:07
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9839 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Manual of Nearctic Diptera and other important Canadian publications: http://www.esc-se...fcmono.php. Cyclorrhapha (including Heleomyzidae) are in volume 2. Species of North American Heleomyzidae were revised in 1962: http://www.biodiv...0#/summary |
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| Bscrl |
Posted on 05-10-2015 12:08
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Thanx a lot for the link ! 
Edited by Bscrl on 05-10-2015 12:09 |
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but don't see the image in the post.