Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Sapromyza obesa? SW Sweden 16 Jul 2015 -> Sapromyzosoma quadricincta
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:18
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Is it correct?
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:18
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
head lateral view
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:19
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
wing
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:19
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
head dorsal view
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:20
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
abdomen
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:21
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
thorax dorsal view
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| Johane |
Posted on 26-07-2015 16:22
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
yellow palpi
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 26-07-2015 17:31
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
S. obesa has ac in 4 rows, while the specimen in your photos has ac in 6 rows. At the moment I really cannot say much more. I was thinking for a while of S. halidayi, but I am not sure at all. Maybe Paul Beuk can help? ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Johane |
Posted on 27-07-2015 11:29
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Thanks Ruud! Is there any important feature that isn't visible in the photos? |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 27-07-2015 17:33
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Johane, I will be more than pleased to look at it. At the moment I am abroad. It is not easy here to check all the literature as my family expect me to enjoy the holiday with them and not just with 'stupid" flies. I do not know S. obesa. I have the species mentioned in the literature. At the moment I am really unable to say anything. But maybe Paul can? ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Johane |
Posted on 28-07-2015 17:45
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
I made some pictures of the genitalia. One of the parameres(?) has been broken off. I have no drawing to compare with, but maybe someone else has?
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| Johane |
Posted on 28-07-2015 17:47
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
2nd pic of genitalia
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| Johane |
Posted on 28-07-2015 17:49
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
right paramere
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-07-2015 18:17
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I begin to think it is S. amabilis, but as I am not that familiar with this species, nor with S. obesa..... Yet the palpen on the photo are yellow! I hope Mark Mitschell will pay diptera.info a visit soon. Edited by rvanderweele on 28-07-2015 18:20 ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Johane |
Posted on 21-08-2015 00:45
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
I would appreciate help from more experts. Johan |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-08-2015 12:52
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Any particular reason why it cannot be Sapromyzosoma quadricincta?
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Johane |
Posted on 21-08-2015 21:55
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
I think I was unsure of the colour of the abdomen? Is it certainly Sapromyzosoma quadricincta? |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-08-2015 13:30
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Ocellar setae are outside the ocellar triangle, four rows of acrostichals. That would lead to that species.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Johane |
Posted on 24-08-2015 14:36
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 1966 Joined: 27.08.13 |
Thank you very much Paul! |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-05-2018 13:32
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Why the heck did I ever think this is amabilis? Crazy. Of course it is S. quadricincta. Just look at those genitalia
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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