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 Muscidae 3 ID -> Mydaea cf. urbana
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:02
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
good morning, this couple I spotted on 17-05, Belgium size approx: +10mm at first I thought of Mydaea Corni..but at a closer look, the eyes of male does not reach each other... maybe some Phaonia ? many thanks ...Chris bums attached the following image:  [188.85Kb] Edited by bums on 06-06-2015 18:20 |
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:03
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:03
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male
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:04
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last male
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:04
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:05
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Posted on 21-05-2015 05:06
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and last female
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Posted on 28-05-2015 11:21
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Member Location: Wales, UK Posts: 570 Joined: 15.06.10 |
With the male do you have more photos of tibia1 and tibia 3- Tibia 1 to ensure that there are no p setae Tibia 3 to see more clearly the number of ad and av setae Thx Dr Elisabeth A. Harris @FloraConsUK |
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Posted on 01-06-2015 04:39
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
hello, I've got just these three extra pictures of male tibia... I hope they will be conclusive...and many thanks for looking into this greetings Chris bums attached the following image:  [181.03Kb] |
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Posted on 01-06-2015 04:40
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
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Posted on 01-06-2015 04:40
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
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Posted on 04-06-2015 14:53
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Member Location: Wales, UK Posts: 570 Joined: 15.06.10 |
OK I can't see a p seta on tibia 1 so I will assume that there isn't 1 Are you able to translate German, I have some information from Hennig 64 which I would like to translate also? the absence of a p seta on tibia 1 makes it interesting! Dr Elisabeth A. Harris @FloraConsUK |
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Posted on 04-06-2015 17:25
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
...I think I might be able to translate german...born and raised there  .. But on the other hand: I've seen your shout box conversation with Stephane...all the scientific talk: I've really got to learn the vocabulary but thats what we are here for, so shoot.... |
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Posted on 06-06-2015 11:00
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Member Location: Wales, UK Posts: 570 Joined: 15.06.10 |
OK Here is as far as I got For British species Assuming Helina no spots on abdomen, wings clear, no p seta on tibia 1, pre ac absent, eyes not long haired, 4 post dc, narrow fronto-orbital plates usually separated by a black line - further info need - femur 3 with pv setae in the apical 1/3rd? also posterior cross-vein is verschieden stark geschwungen, wenig schrägstehend (can anyone help out here)- pubiseta also need to check Mydaea need to see pv setae on f3 + = deserta, - = orthonevra, urbana, separate by ad, av on tibia 3 I can't see any pv on femur 3, you may have some more angles thfore = Mydaea orthonevra or urbana, tibia 3 with 2av, 2ad = urbana urbana - Abdomen à pruinosité d'un gris jaunâtre avec une ligne médiane dorsale - abdomen dusted grey-yellow with a dorsal median line Dr Elisabeth A. Harris @FloraConsUK |
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Posted on 06-06-2015 12:45
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
Hello Elisabeth, thanks for your devotion... the translation could be something like this: "posterior cross-vein is verschieden stark geschwungen, wenig schrägstehend " 'posterior cross-vein is oscillating differently strong, only little inclined...' ...and I really do not have any different angles on pictures... maybe Stephane or Nikita can say something about it? Edited by bums on 06-06-2015 12:45 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-06-2015 13:54
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Mydaea cf. urbana.
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Posted on 06-06-2015 18:20
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
nice...thanks a lot, Stephane ..and Elisabeth |
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but don't see the image in the post.