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 Unknown small Nematocera (18.04.15) --> Dicranomyia morio?
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-04-2015 19:48
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, on ivy in our garden (northwest Germany). I can't even propose a family. For Limoniidae it seemed very small with its 4.5 mm. Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [55.08Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 19-04-2015 22:41 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-04-2015 19:49
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #2
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [88.36Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 19-04-2015 20:03
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9845 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Tipulidae s. lat. can be very small. Quoting the guide to Tipulidae in Manual of Nearctic Diptera: Length up to 60 mm; size varying from tiny species of Tasiocera Skuse with wing length of about 2 mm, to large species of Holorusia Loew with wing often 40 mm long and of Leptotarsus Guérin-Méneville (Longurio Loew) with body length often 60 mm. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-04-2015 20:37
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello John, many thanks for your interesting comment. The smallest Limoniidae I knew from here were about 6-7 mm. The largest Tipulids were a Tanyptera atrata female with at least 30 mm body length (including ovipositor) and - of course - several Tipula maxima. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| clovis |
Posted on 19-04-2015 22:17
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 910 Joined: 08.06.10 |
And what would you say about Dicranoyia (Melanolimonia)? D morio? |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-04-2015 22:40
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello Clovis, clovis wrote: And what would you say about Dicranoyia (Melanolimonia)? D morio? there are many Limoniidae around in our garden these days, which I think are Dicranomyia (posting is from 2014, but they are also present now). But those are bigger (8-10 mm) and often greenish. I did not know D. morio, yet, but pics I found in the net, lool rather similar, thanks! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| clovis |
Posted on 21-04-2015 10:43
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 910 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Actually i have no doubt on the subgenus, and it is a really small specie, even compare with D chorea  |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 21-04-2015 18:58
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hi, I have a slightly better (wing venation visible) picture from yesterday. Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [89.69Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 21-04-2015 19:03
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13659 Joined: 11.09.04 |
And the other Dicranomyias, the bigger (10 mm), greenish ones, are sitting next to it at the wintergarden, trembling constantly with high frequency for hours and hours... 
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [99.12Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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