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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 03-03-2015 21:49
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 Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Can anyone suggest a subfamily? At light, Townsville, Queensland. Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [85.08Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-03-2015 09:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Could be Winthemiiini, though I see only 4 humeral bristles (should be 5). Could you check whether the 'barette' is hairy ? Theo |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 04-03-2015 09:46
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Ok, just got find a barette first. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-03-2015 10:22
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Its modern name is ' katepimeron'. It is not in the glossary. It is a more or less horizontal strip above the meron, so in front of the posterior spiracle. It is much smaller than the meron. This is the meron http://www.diptera.info/infusions/terms/terms.php?sortby=M&items_per_page=20&show_syn=1&cat_id=6 Hope this helps Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-03-2015 10:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Or better http://www.inhs.illinois.edu/research/webkey/thorax.html "kepm' |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 04-03-2015 18:19
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks Theo, that reference was quite clear. And yes there are dense golden hairs in that location. Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [108.67Kb] Edited by Graeme Cocks on 04-03-2015 18:38 |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 04-03-2015 18:38
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
lateral Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [137.92Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-03-2015 18:55
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Graeme It is actually BEHIND the golden hairs. It should be more or less horizontal, As farr as I can tell, it looks bare, not sure though. Theo |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 04-03-2015 19:18
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
I've taken away most of the golden hairs and I would say that it is bare. Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [84.69Kb] |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 04-03-2015 19:21
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Is this it at the end of the line I've added? Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [155.68Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-03-2015 15:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is difficult to see in this angle, but you seem correct. There are just a few hairs on front, but that is OK. Conclusion: Not Winthemiini |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 05-03-2015 18:51
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks Theo. Yes the area is in shadow, sorry about that. I could have placed my lights better. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-03-2015 20:57
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
This time, no new ' Monty Python'ish questions, but an ID on species ! level Carcelia hardyi. I am very fortunate that you have so few Carcelia Comment by Crosskey " ... can be extremely similar to Winthemiini...' That explains my nagging on the barrette. Theo |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 05-03-2015 21:19
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks Theo. And I am fortunate you are so tenacious. Wonderful. |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 05-03-2015 21:27
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
The species Carcelia (Carcelia) hardyi is listed on ALA (Atlas of Living Australia) but there are no recorded sightings, so this will be the first. To be listed I guess it must have been sighted somewhere but the record(s) haven't made it to the database. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-03-2015 08:53
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
What do you mean by 'sightings', Graeme ? The type locality of hardyi is in Queensland, Brisbane if I remember correctly. I was very pleased to learn that ! Crosskey gives the most 'recent' checklist for Australia (1976). Do you have a copy. I'd say you'd reallly need one ! Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-03-2015 08:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
By the way, diptera.org is also pretty informative http://www.diptera.org/NomenclatorDetail.php?Recn=605506 Theo |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 06-03-2015 20:21
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
The ALA only gathers records that are in a digital format, so records on paper will probably never make it into the database. No I don't have that paper. Thanks for pointing me to diptera.org, I didn't know about it. |
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| sd |
Posted on 06-03-2015 21:49
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Member Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 892 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Follow the link here for Crosskey http://www.dipter...d_id=65584 Steve |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 06-03-2015 22:07
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
thanks sd |
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but don't see the image in the post.
