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 Heleomyzidae from 02.01.15 (or Muscidae??) --> Heleomyzidae
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-01-2015 00:40
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, my first flies this year in the nightly garden (northwest Germany) were Dryomyza flaveola, Phaonia tuguriorum, some Drosophila, Chironomidae and Trichoceridae. And this 4.5 mm Heleomyzid. Can it be determined? Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [38.13Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 24-03-2015 23:35 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-01-2015 00:40
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #2
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [48.43Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 14-02-2015 21:24
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Heteromyza?
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-03-2015 18:36
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Juergen Peters wrote: Heteromyza? No way? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Aiwok |
Posted on 22-03-2015 02:36
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Member Location: Hamburg Posts: 38 Joined: 07.03.11 |
Isn't this Muscidae: Lispocephala brachialis? Regards, Jan |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-03-2015 17:19
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello Jan, Aiwok wrote: Isn't this Muscidae: Lispocephala brachialis? hmm..., with this yellow face? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Aiwok |
Posted on 23-03-2015 10:18
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Member Location: Hamburg Posts: 38 Joined: 07.03.11 |
Hi, It's face is indeed quite yellow - also more yellow than the one I've found so far. Maybe you could try to attract the attention of a Muscidae expert to check these pictures? I'm unfortunately just another hobby entomologist and can't adbvise any better. Google found few other rather yellow faced Lispocephalas but I can't tell how trustwothy these sources are. Quite some of the L. brachialis shown in the gallery here are at least november and february -> january seem plausible for this species. On the other hand there are very few setae visible on tibia3. I guess L. brachialis should have some more. In Heleomyzidae some of the Tephrochlamys species shown here in the gallery resemble you specimen very well. Compare also recent post http://diptera.in...d_id=66112 Regards Jan Edited by Aiwok on 23-03-2015 10:48 |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-03-2015 20:15
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13612 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello Jan, Aiwok wrote: Quite some of the L. brachialis shown in the gallery here are at least november and february -> january seem plausible for this species. yes, I typically find Lispocephala in the colder season, like this one: http://www.dipter...d_id=65804But apart from the yellow frons I have never seen one with such an orange abdomen. In Heleomyzidae some of the Tephrochlamys species shown here in the gallery resemble you specimen very well. Yes. But I always have problems distiguishing Tephrochlamys from Heteromyza. Most of the bluish/orange Heleomyzids I already posted this year were Heteromyza sp.. They are also typically occuring in the colder season. Edited by Juergen Peters on 23-03-2015 20:17 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Aiwok |
Posted on 24-03-2015 18:45
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Member Location: Hamburg Posts: 38 Joined: 07.03.11 |
This was my similar find:  ID is not confirmed... The more I learn about insects the less reason for confidence in their ID seems to be left. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-03-2015 23:05
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Juergen's fly is an Heleomyzidae : Muscidae have at least a few strong and long bristles on legs (femora or tibiae) and the suture is more pronounced (an calypters are fully developped).
Stephane. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
