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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 28-11-2014 07:53
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 Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Can anyone suggest a subfamily or genera for this Asilidae? Netted. Townsville, Queensland. Graeme Cocks attached the following image:  [130.21Kb] Edited by Graeme Cocks on 28-11-2014 08:06 |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 29-11-2014 02:01
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9834 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I think it is Laphriinae: R2+3 ending in R1, antenna with stylus inconspicuous or absent. |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 29-11-2014 04:52
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks John |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 29-11-2014 05:18
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Hi John. I've found a key which says the feature you mention (R2+R3 swinging around to join R1) is the subfamily Laphystiinae, so I'll go with that. The key is by Fritz Geller-Grimm (1998), after Artigas and Papavero, 1988. |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 29-11-2014 05:28
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Ahh, further reading and it appears that the Laphystiinae have been incorporated into the Laphriinae. Pity it was a nice key. |
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| Eric Fisher |
Posted on 29-11-2014 21:28
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 Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
As John says, this is a Laphriinae--even a Laphria sp. (cf. bancrofti). |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 29-11-2014 21:52
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks Eric. |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 02-12-2014 00:49
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Maybe a silly remark but some of those Australian Laphria species look very much like our European Choerades species like this one. Laphria in Europe looks more like this: http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=63769 : ) What makes this one a Laphria? Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Eric Fisher |
Posted on 02-12-2014 01:53
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Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
Mainly tradition I think. Australians do not recognize the genus Choerades among their fauna (even though this sp.--cf. bancrofti--and many others look like they belong to this genus rather than Laphria. Laphria and relatives (Laphriini) very much need a world-wide revision at the generic level. |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 02-12-2014 13:38
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Oh noooooooo, not again! : ) The more i try to get acquained with the family the more taxonomic problems and loads of work i encounter. Nice! a never ending story.... Thank you Eric! (It wasn't such a silly question after all) Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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but don't see the image in the post.
