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Anthomyiid? England, October -> Delia platura
Martin Cooper
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Posted on 24-10-2014 23:50
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Found on hedge at Martlesham, Suffolk, UK on 22 October 2014.
Please help identify the species. I can provide additional photos if that would help.
Here is the fly before I captured it.

Best wishes,
Martin
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lateral view of pinned fly
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dorsal view
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lateral close-up of head and thorax
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side view of genitalia
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ventral view of genitalia
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and here is another ventral view of the genitalia.
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Although I can't see how long the row of pv on the hind femur is, the rest of it looks like Delia platura. The pv row should be short, about 3 distinct bristles near the distal end of the femur.

The pinned lateral photo shows the origin of the species name, Greek for "flat tail."
 
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Thanks John. The specimen has dried with its hind legs rather close together making it quite hard to see the ventral sides; although I have something of blind spot for which side is which, despite efforts by Johanna to help me! Here is the image that I cropped to get the side view of the genitalia, which includes the hind femora.
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and here's a crop of the distal ends...
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Here is another fly which I think may be the same species, photographed at almost same place and time as previous specimen.
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and here's a crop of the distal femur of that individual.
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Excellent photos of Delia platura (what John already said..)
Only the last one...a bit difficult to confirm if it is indeed also D. platura.
Compliment for your effort!

Johanna

 
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Thanks John and Johanna! I was surprised by those white hairs on the ends of the surstyli. They aren't visible in the lateral view but are quite striking in the view from below.

Best wishes,

Martin
 
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