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 Calliphoridae ID -> pollenia amentaria?
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Posted on 31-08-2014 20:38
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
hello, is this pollenia amentaria female? found in Voeren,Belgium today thanks in advance...chris bums attached the following image:  [143.73Kb] |
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Posted on 31-08-2014 20:39
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
and this
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Posted on 31-08-2014 21:42
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 Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12 |
What I can see about abdomen appears to confirm your ID, but scutellar chaetotaxy makes me a little confused. Do you have more photos? |
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Posted on 31-08-2014 22:01
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
only this one
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Posted on 31-08-2014 23:27
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Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12 |
Ooops. Basicosta, even if not well focused, doesn't look black but brown (at the best it can be considered dark brown). This rules out the whole "amentaria group" . I'm sorry. |
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| ValerioW |
Posted on 31-08-2014 23:29
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Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12 |
Also scutellar setae apparently rule out amentaria group. |
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Posted on 01-09-2014 04:51
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
Ok, lets see what others can make of it.... |
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Posted on 01-09-2014 05:11
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
on 02-08 I found this ...male ?.... fly, which you, Valerio, determined as P.amentaria as well...but at further notice I think it could very well be the same species as the first fly ? http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=62570 on the other hand is the back shield truly different.... |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 01-09-2014 18:23
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
The basicosta is enough dark for P. amentaria. The sharp facial keel is well visible, and I'm quite confident with P. amentaria.
Stephane. |
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| ValerioW |
Posted on 01-09-2014 19:16
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Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: The basicosta is enough dark for P. amentaria. The sharp facial keel is well visible, and I'm quite confident with P. amentaria. Ok! I've never collected them and the few I saw were always with dark basicosta (like blackish) |
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Posted on 01-09-2014 20:42
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Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14 |
Thanks a lot, Stephane and Valerio...  |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 28-11-2017 13:24
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
I agree with Stephane: Pollenia amentaria female However, the color of the basicosta is helpful with Lucilia but not Pollenia. According to Dr. Rognes, the features mentioned in his publications have "no taxonomical value." John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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but don't see the image in the post.