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Syrphidae ID Cheilosia?
bums	#1 Posted on 30-08-2014 20:10
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14	hello, this possible cheilosia I found today in Voeren, Belgium. is this correct and can someone be more precise about this? thanks a lot...chris bums attached the following image: [136.33Kb]


bums	#2 Posted on 30-08-2014 20:10
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14	and this..nearly the same... bums attached the following image: [134.94Kb]


ValerioW	#3 Posted on 30-08-2014 20:22
Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12	Yes, male. I can exclude many species, but cannot be sure about the right one. Do you have some good resolution photos of face ?


bums	#4 Posted on 30-08-2014 20:30
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14	only this one .... bums attached the following image: [114.82Kb]


Lukasz Mielczarek	#5 Posted on 01-09-2014 20:07
Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06	It's probably Cheilosia scutellata. Lukasz


bums	#6 Posted on 01-09-2014 20:43
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14	Thanks, Lukasz and Valerio


ValerioW	#7 Posted on 01-09-2014 23:37
Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12	Only sure thing is that this male is from "pagana" group, and that has mostly pale thoracic hairs and black rings on t1-t2.


Menno Reemer	#8 Posted on 02-09-2014 08:12
Member Location: Posts: 343 Joined: 10.06.04	I agree with Lukasz that this looks like C. scutellata. The head profile and colouration of mesothoracic pile fit that species. In C. pagana, the facial tubercle is not as swollen and in C. longula the thoracic hairs are darker. In C. soror the basoflagellomere is more reddish.


bums	#9 Posted on 02-09-2014 21:01
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1047 Joined: 10.05.14	Thanks a lot, Menno...