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christoophe
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Posted on 30-08-2014 08:55
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Hello

Collected at 1700 m. altitude in the Alps.

pic male and female.

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos126/big/img_9348.jpg.jpg
lauriaut : France : Montagne de Lure : 04 : 21/08/2014
Altitude : 1700 m - Taille : 10
Réf. : 126915

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos126/big/img_9357.jpg.jpg
lauriaut : France : Montagne de Lure : 04 : 21/08/2014
Altitude : 1700 m - Taille : 10
Réf. : 126916

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos126/big/img_9352.jpg.jpg
lauriaut : France : Montagne de Lure : 04 : 21/08/2014
Altitude : 1700 m - Taille : 10
Réf. : 126917

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos126/big/img_9360.jpg.jpg
lauriaut : France : Montagne de Lure : 04 : 21/08/2014
Altitude : 1700 m - Taille : 10
Réf. : 126918
 
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both Empis (Leptempis) rustica
 
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I think the description and drawing of the genitalia of E. rustica by Chvála is slightly different from this post.
 
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christoophe wrote:
I think the description and drawing of the genitalia of E. rustica by Chvála is slightly different from this post.



I have, likely, the same picture you are talking about. Genitalia are slightly different and resemble more those of variegata, but the main description is not matching too much with this species (for example coxae here are not black).
 
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Male and female are different species, the male belonging to the rustioca group (sensu Chvála) the female belonging to the monogramma group (sensu Chvála; more yellowish species).
The male does not key out properly as rustica as the venter apparently is not black. Neither Chvála's key or Daugeron's key leads to a satisfactory identification, with the genitalia resembling those of meridionalis but the coxae being yellowish. Might well be an undescribed species.
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Paul Beuk wrote:
Male and female are different species, the male belonging to the rustioca group (sensu Chvála) the female belonging to the monogramma group (sensu Chvála; more yellowish species).
The male does not key out properly as rustica as the venter apparently is not black. Neither Chvála's key or Daugeron's key leads to a satisfactory identification, with the genitalia resembling those of meridionalis but the coxae being yellowish. Might well be an undescribed species.



So this is a new discovery from rustica group (cognata e multispina have light sternites, but genitalia appears different)!TumbsUp
Edited by ValerioW on 02-09-2014 16:09
 
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A thousand excuses, I forgot that I had made a topic on the forum DI.
It's Empis (Leptempis) lauriauti Daugeron & Bahid, 2017 ♂ and ♀.
 
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