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| gardensafarinl |
Posted on 15-08-2014 19:54
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 Member Location: Arnhem, the Netherlands Posts: 79 Joined: 09.01.06 |
While photographing a tiny moth (Pammene aurana) I discovered an extremely small fly close by. In one of the pictures this fly is quite clearly visible. I think it is a Chloropidae. But can anything more be said about it, like genus or even species? It was photographed on July 23rd of this year in a botanical garden in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Your help is much appreciated.  |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 15-08-2014 22:45
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9841 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Chyromyidae |
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| gardensafarinl |
Posted on 15-08-2014 23:08
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Member Location: Arnhem, the Netherlands Posts: 79 Joined: 09.01.06 |
Oh, that is a surprise. I'll look into it further. Maybe I'll find something, for there are only three species known from the Netherlands: Chyromya flava Chyromya oppidana Gymnochiromyia flavella So maybe I can find out. Thanks a lot John! |
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| empeejay |
Posted on 16-08-2014 13:17
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It also looks very like Liriomyza lutea. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 16-08-2014 13:36
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9841 Joined: 22.10.10 |
empeejay wrote: It also looks very like Liriomyza lutea. My usual rule is a "Chloropidae" with bristles is an Agromyzidae, but I didn't know of any Agromyizdae with such pale markings. North American Liriomyza are contrasting yellow and black, or yellow and dark brown. |
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| von Tschirnhaus |
Posted on 20-08-2014 17:05
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Member Location: Bielefeld, Germany Posts: 429 Joined: 04.11.07 |
Liiriomyza lutea (Meigen, 1830), Agromyzidae [= L. melanorhabda Hendel, 1931]. Larvae develop in seeds of Apiaceae, genera, Angelica, Heracleum, Pastinaca. A somewhat variable species with matt scutum, yellowish legs and yellowish wing veins. There are some few similar species with yellow patch before scutellum, e.g. L. oldenbergi Hering, 1933. |
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| gardensafarinl |
Posted on 21-08-2014 23:48
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Member Location: Arnhem, the Netherlands Posts: 79 Joined: 09.01.06 |
von Tschirnhaus wrote: Liiriomyza lutea (Meigen, 1830), Agromyzidae [= L. melanorhabda Hendel, 1931]. Larvae develop in seeds of Apiaceae, genera, Angelica, Heracleum, Pastinaca. A somewhat variable species with matt scutum, yellowish legs and yellowish wing veins. There are some few similar species with yellow patch before scutellum, e.g. L. oldenbergi Hering, 1933. Thank you very much. You are the 2nd one to vote for this family and even this species. Which is great indeed. Still I will wait for Paul Beuk's opinion. But I would like to thank you once more, for my mind is almost made up. |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 22-08-2014 12:15
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Now Michael von Tschirnhaus has given his view on this specimen, I feel quit comfortable in following his opinion  .So good call Empeejay! Edited by Jan Willem on 22-08-2014 12:17 Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| gardensafarinl |
Posted on 22-08-2014 17:12
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Member Location: Arnhem, the Netherlands Posts: 79 Joined: 09.01.06 |
Thanks all of you, for Michael must be right. I'll have it down as Liriomyza lutea. Especially thanks to Michael and thanks to all the others for thinking along. After all these are not the easiest of families! |
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but don't see the image in the post.