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 Malaysia, Fraser's Hill. What family?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-03-2014 15:15
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About 5 mm
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-03-2014 15:17
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Dorsal: eyes dichoptic
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-03-2014 15:19
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
no idea?
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 24-03-2014 18:41
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I have an idea that the legs and abdomen belong to a much smaller fly!  I guess it's always worth trying Lauxaniidae if a fly fits nowhere else? Edited by Tony Irwin on 24-03-2014 18:45 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 25-03-2014 01:25
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9841 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I thought of Lauxaniidae but the narrow frons would be unusual. The bristles on the thorax seem to be consistent. Are the postocellar setae convergent? |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-03-2014 22:49
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Tony and John, thank you. 1. To exclude Lauxaniid (and several other "yellowish" families) I showed the fly to Shatalkin. No Idea. Ozerov - no idea. My attempt to key the family - no result. 2. Postocellars seems divergrent... Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 25-03-2014 23:46
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9841 Joined: 22.10.10 |
We have Sc complete, not angled as in typical Tephritidae No subcostal or humeral break R1 bare Postocellars divergent (ruling out Lauxaniidae, among others) Head not spherical (ruling out Sepsidae) All tibiae with preapical dorsal bristles No row of bristles on meron (ruling out Oestroidea) No differentiated vibrissa (ruling out most or all Calyptratae) Venation typical for Schizophora, without any unusual bulging cells (common in Tephritoidea) or bent or convergent M (as in Oestroidea or the -pezidae families). Suture incomplete, not extending inside dorsocentrals (pointing towards acalyptrates) I consulted three keys: Nearctic, Central America, and Marshall's worldwide key. I keep ending up around Dryomyzidae or Sciomyzidae, possibly Clusiidae. I don't like any of those answers. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 26-03-2014 12:35
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi John. I came from about the same set of characters and also arrived to Dryomyzidae or Sciomyzidae which is not the case... Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 15-05-2014 14:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Today I organised a brainstorm in Moscow Zool Museum. Finally we have the family - Lauxaniidae. Something related to Holopticander papuanus Hennig, 1968. Anatoly Shatalkin is working on it... Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 15-05-2014 14:17 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 16-05-2014 13:01
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Confirmed by A.Shatalkin as Holopticander papuanus
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but don't see the image in the post.